[Rhodes22-list] E10 Gas in 2 Stroke Outboards

[Michael Meltzer]

I would highly drought it, And it a non-issues for the EPA because they band
all new 2-stokes without injection, and the bigger boy engines have been
using some type of injection for oil for years now, and the amount marina
gas is such a small amount that no refiner will give a sh*t. best hope will
be an additives if it real needed or they change the spec on 2-stock oil
again.

-mjm 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick Lange
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] E10 Gas in 2 Stroke Outboards
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Ouch!  So how does one find ethanol-free gas?  Are marina gas stations
> exempt by the EPA as they are for nonleaded gas?
> 
> Rick
> 
> > Rick,
> > The use of ethanol blended fuel is not recommended in marine
> > environments because of the water absorbtion issues.  Here is an
> > excerpt from an Australian government study:
> >
> > "The E10 study of two-stroke outboard and other small engines suggests
> > that E10 may not be suitable for two-stroke engines. The risk of phase
> > separation in ethanol blends, and the resulting risk of these smaller
> > engines stalling, means that use of ethanol blends requires care in a
> > marine environment."
> >
> > Ethanol fuels are also not suitable with some rubber and other types
> > of seals.  Small airplanes that have an STC to use autogas are
> > specifically prohibited from using E-fuels because of the seals issue
> > and vapor pressure problems.
> >
> > Ethanol as it is currently produced in the US is a great substitute
> > for MTBE but otherwise is a "feel good" fuel that makes Iowa corn
> > farmers happy.  If we made the stuff from sugar beets, like Brazil, it
> > would make more sense. That would mean we'd have to cut off the
> > welfare payments to Louisiana sugar beet farmers.  Sorry, got off
> > topic!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > On 7/2/06, Rick Lange <SloopBlueHeron at isp.com> wrote:
> >> In reading my July issue of the Boat US magazine, I came across an
> >> article
> >> about the problems caused by using ethanol as a gasoline additive.  It
> >> says 2 stroke outboards without "oil injection" could have problems
> with
> >> lubrication because of the water absorbed by the ethanol.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what oil injection is?  I presume it eliminates mixing
> >> the oil in the gasoline.
> >>
> >> Also, has anyone had any adverse experience with E10 gas in an
> outboard?
> >> Its just being introduced into my locale, so people around here are
> only
> >> starting to see the effects.  Mostly clogged filters so far.
> >>
> >> I'm hoping the 3 gallon tank I use for my 2 stroke won't pick up much
> >> water over the summer, and I always throw out what remains at season
> >> end.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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