[Rhodes22-list] Was Fall Haul ... Now: Winter Cover for Boat in the Water

[mputnam1 at aol.com]

Does anyone have any recommendations on on how to best secure a tarp that size on the R-22 if it's left in the water over the winter?  Should I try to wrap it around the shrouds?  And how do you best secure it?  And I imagine the mast is a problem, too.  Is there something more suited to a boat left in the water?
 
By the way, Michael, I checked the Harbor Freight website, and that tarp is now up to $54.99: 
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
 
Still seems like a good price, though, if it saves you the grief of delaminated fiberglass ...
 
- Mark P.   
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:51:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fall Haul?


Bill,

I am also in the NYC area and have not had problems with the water system
being damaged over the winter in 25 years.  In 1981, the water was stored in
a simple poly tank under the V-berth.  I traditionally remove the tank over
the winter to completely drain it (lift up the cushions, remove 3 hoses and
drain tank overboard after pumping as much out as possible.)  I allow the
water in the line to drain into a pail and towel.

I do have to warn you FROM EXPERIENCE that you should look into covering the
R22 on the trailer with a tarp over the winter to avoid building up snow and
ice in the cockpit (Harbor Freight #1435-5VGA 19 FT. x 29 FT. 4" REFLECTIVE
HEAVY DUTY SILVER TARPAULIN $35.99).  I believe that much of the damage to
the cockpit floor that I have had to repair was done by the freezing and
thawing of ice in the cockpit over the winter.  It only take a few years of
this for the water to do damage through separation and delamination.  Please
do not make the same mistake that I did.

Also, while we are on the subject of winterizing, be sure to remove the
battery when not in use.  The battery can be stored in freezing temperatures
(like a garage) as long as it is CHARGED!  If you leave it in the boat, it
will discharge and could be damaged (cells ruptured) by the cold.

Lastly, for several years, I forget to remove the sails and have them
cleaned before storing for the winter.  They last a lot longer when clean,
do not form mildew or mold and seams can be repaired so they are ready for
the spring.

Just my $0.02.

Mike
s/v Shanghaid Summer '81

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>


> Dave,
>
> I don't like antifreeze in my system, and I never use it.  My boat has
> been near NYC for 8 years, sitting outside on a trailer every winter
> without ever draining any lines.  It has been cold enough so that huge
> amounts of snow have frozen solid in the cockpit, and once in the cabin
> as well.  No tanks split open.  No pipes burst.  No pumps broke.  As
> soon as it all thawed out, I just turned things on and water came out.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Hank wrote:
> > Dave,
> >
> > You need to use RV antifreeze, available at Walmart, put it in the fresh
> > water tank and then run the fawcett until the water comes out pink.
> > All of
> > the water hoses need the anti-freeze to avoid freezing and rupturing
> > during
> > the winter.
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On 7/9/06, DCLewis1 at aol.com <DCLewis1 at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Stan,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your post.  I guess a pumped out waste tank with a
little
> >> anti-freeze and a drained and dry water tank will do it. Maybe pull
the
> >> batts?
> >> Keep the bilge dry.
> >>
> >> How about antifreeze in the bilge in case water does get in?
> >>
> >> Interesting that the centerboard trunk isn't swelled  from freezing
> >> -  maybe
> >> it's miniscule - I'm not looking for a problem, if it works  great.
> >>
> >> Anything else needed for winterizing?
> >>
> >> We'd probably pull the OB for servicing, at least temporarily.  Does
> >> the
> >> remote stuff detach from the motor, or does the assembly  mounted on
the
> >> tiller
> >> have to follow the motor?  If we can leave  the throttle & gear shift
on
> >> the
> >> tiller, do they and the cables to  the motor  need periodic
maintenance?
> >>
> >> Dave
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