[Rhodes22-list] Political: How California liberals treat a war hero

[Hank]

Brad,

That is now the law about the federal funds.  Many universities are
complaining, but I haven't heard of any refusing the recruiters and
foregoing the funds.

Hank

On 7/19/06, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wally,
>
> What they did is no worse than universities kicking ROTC off campus and
> not
> allowing military recruiters to visit.  I think any school that doesn't
> allow the military on campus shouldn't be allowed to recieve a dime of
> Federal monies.
>
> Speaking of military IDs, I still have mine from the Gulf War (we flew
> stuff
> to the desert).  As soon as the shooting started we were told not to carry
> them so we wouldn't be confused as military.  Huh?  Anyway, it came in
> handy
> when I lived in Middle Tennessee.  The only way to get a beer on Sunday
> near
> Center Hill Lake was at the AmVets or VFW.  They'd ask if I was a member
> and
> I'd flash my ID, clearly marked 'civilian'.  Worked every time!
>
> Brad
>
>
> On 7/19/06, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hank,
> >
> > Go figure huh? Sometimes people can't see the forest through the trees.
> I
> > have a lot of respect for any veterans especially former POWs. I think
> the
> > Dems come out of this looking pretty foolish.
> >
> > I remember the POWs coming home in the 70s. They really needed to ease
> > back
> > into everyday life. The Navy sent quite a few ex-POWs to the Naval War
> > College in Newport RI.. My father attended War College for the first
> class
> > after POW release. We lived in Navy Officer Quarters near Fort Adams. 2
> of
> > our neighbors were Navy Pilots and former POWs. One family (Captain
> North)
> > had high school age children and we all hung out together. Captain North
> > spoke at our High School and provided very graphic descriptions of his
> > torture. Why anyone would not show respect is beyond me!
> >
> > We only lived in Newport for a year but I do rember the sailing! I had a
> > sunfish chained to a tree in Brenton Cove that I could splash at a
> moments
> > notice. I also had my Military ID and "Skipper" card that allowed me to
> > rent
> > Cape Cod Mercury Cat Boats and a variety of 18 - 25 foot sloops.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> > >From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Political: How California liberals treat a war
> > >hero
> > >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:43:38 -0400
> > >
> > >My uncle just sent me this and I thought some of you on the list might
> > >appreciate it.
> > >
> > >Hank
> > >
> > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >From: Neil F Shearman <neilthai at usa.net>
> > >Date: Jul 18, 2006 4:54 PM
> > >Subject: How California liberals treat a war hero
> > >To: ". Friends" <nfshear at yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >  *4th of July in California Assembly*
> > >
> > >*From John Campbell, **
> > >California Republican Assemblyman *
> > >
> > >*4th of July**: In each of the 4 years that I have been a member of the
> > >state Assembly, we have had many "celebrations" on the Assembly floor.
> > >These "celebrations" are orchestrated by the Democrats who control the
> > >House
> > >and often involve singing and dancing.  Every one of my 4 years have
> seen
> > >substantial celebrations of Cinco de Mayo (which Commemorates the
> Mexican
> > >victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla ), St. Patrick's Day
> (for
> > >the patron Saint of Ireland), and Chinese New Year's Day, among others.
> > >But
> > >never once have we celebrated America's Independence Day, the 4th of
> > July.
> > >*
> > >
> > >*So, this year, Republican Assemblyman Jay LaSuer of San Diego arranged
> > for
> > >Vietnam war hero Admiral Jeremiah Denton to come to California to be a
> > part
> > >of a 4th of July ceremony.  As you may know, Admiral Denton was a Navy
> > >pilot
> > >i n Vietnam who was shot down and spent 8 years in a Vietnamese
> > prison.  In
> > >1966 while in prison, he was interviewed by North Vietnamese television
> > in
> > >Hanoi after torture to get him to "respond properly."  During this
> > >interview, he blinked his eyes in Morse code to spell out the word
> > >"torture."  He was asked about his support for the war in Vietnam to
> > which
> > >he replied "I don't know what is happening now in Vietnam, because the
> > only
> > >news sources I have are Vietnamese.  But whatever the position of my
> > >government is, I believe in it, I support it, and I will support it as
> > long
> > >as I live."  Four of his 8 years in prison were spent in solitary
> > >confinement.  He later wrote the book "When Hell was in Session"
> > >chronicling
> > >his experience in Vietnam. *
> > >
> > >*When he stepped off the plane after being released from prison in
> 1973,
> > he
> > >said "We are honored to have had the oppo rtunity to serve our country
> in
> > >difficult circumstances.  We are profoundly grateful to our
> > >Commander-in-Chief for this day.  God bless America." *
> > >
> > >*Suffice it to say, Jeremiah Denton is unquestionably an American hero.
> *
> > >
> > >*The Democrat leadership refused to allow him on the Assembly floor,
> and
> > >there was no 4th of July celebration.  A memo from the Democrat
> speaker's
> > >office said "problems have arisen both with regards to the spirit,
> > content,
> > >and participation of various individuals with regard to the ceremony."
> > >Apparently, they said that he did not believe in the "separation of
> > church
> > >and state" and therefore they would not allow him to be on the Assembly
> > >floor or to speak. *
> > >
> > >*Upon hearing about this, Governor Schwarzenegger offered his meeting
> > room
> > >for a ceremony with Admiral Denton.  The room was overflowing with
> > people.
> > >Only one elected Democrat was in attendance.  A number of veterans of
> the
> > >last 4 wars were present.  Admiral Denton gave a very moving speech
> about
> > >the 4th of July and about the undeniable commitment of our founding
> > >fathers'
> > >to their faith in God.  He talked about how the war on terrorism may be
> > the
> > >most difficult war we have yet fought.  And he went on to say that he
> > fears
> > >that partisan attacks on our mission and our troops in Iraq and
> > Afghanistan
> > >sound too familiar to what he experienced in Vietnam.  Following his
> > >speech,
> > >The Governor came out to personally spend time with him. *
> > >
> > >*Then this American hero, whose debt from us all can never be repaid,
> > flew
> > >home to Alabama. *
> > >
> > >*The Assembly did meet on that day.  And we did have a ceremony that
> > lasted
> > >nearly 20 minutes.  That ceremony was to celebrate the career of a
> > reporter
> > >from the LA Times on the occasion of his retirement.  Democrats
> > universally
> > >praised him as being "balanced."  He was allowed to speak for about 10
> > >minutes.  Admiral Denton was no longer in the building. *
> > >
> > >*Four years of Cinco De Mayo and not one recognition of the 4th of
> July.
> > >An
> > >LA Times reporter praised, and the very person whose sacrifice allows
> him
> > >to
> > >express his opinion is banned.  It is perverse.  It is wrong.  And it
> is
> > >disrespectful to all the men and women in uniform who have stared death
> > in
> > >the face and to those who gave the ul t imate sacrifice for the
> American
> > >people. *
> > >
> > >*Admiral Jeremiah Denton is a hero like all the other men and women of
> > the
> > >Armed Forces, because he defended the ideals set forth with America's
> > >independence. *
> > >
> > >*Democrats are always railing about intolerance and
> discrimination.  But
> > >yet
> > >in practice, it is they who engage in regular state-sanctioned
> > >discrimination and who are intolerant of the presentation of other
> views.
> > >Maybe they are worried that people will listen. *
> > >
> > >*I do not send you this to bash Democrats.  I send you this to
> > demonstrate
> > >the huge chasm that exists between registered, voting Democrats, and
> > >elected
> > >Democrat lea dership.  I hope those of you who are not Democrats, will
> > send
> > >this to your friends who are.  If you are a Democrat, don't be
> > ashamed.  Be
> > >angry.  Straighten out your party and your leadership, or leave it. *
> > >
> > >*Fortunately, we do not need the approval of the Speaker of the
> Assembly
> > to
> > >celebrate our nation's independence.  Nor do we need his permission to
> > >thank
> > >those who fought to give us and to maintain our freedoms.  On the 4th
> of
> > >July, as the burgers cook and the fireworks fly, let us always
> > >remember......and give thanks. *
> > >
> > >*As a final offering, I give you a poem that Admiral Denton read to us,
> > >through eyes clouded with tears:*
> > >
> > >
> > >*"It is the soldier, not the reporter,** **
> > >        Who has given us freedom of the press.*
> > >* It is the soldier, not the poet, *
> > >*        Who has given us freedom of speech.*
> > >* It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,*
> > >*        Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.*
> > >* It is the soldi e r, Who salutes the flag,*
> > >*                         Who serves beneath the flag, *
> > >*                         And whose coffin is draped by the flag,*
> > >*        Who allows the protester to burn the flag." *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"If we do not protect our troops, why should they protect us?" - Major
> > >Frank
> > >Stolz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Demonstrate to the world there is 'No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy'
> > than
> > >a
> > >U.S. Marine."
> > >
> > >-- J. N. Mattis, Major General, U.S. Marines Commanding General's
> > *Message
> > >to All Hands,* March 2003
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