[Rhodes22-list] Politics: How's It Going?

[Herb Parsons]

Wally,

I'll ask again, did you read my question? Your answer pretty clearly indicates you didn't. "Wasn't there something called the Marshall plan AFTER World War II?" (my emphasis). "After" hardly qualifies as 6 months prior. I'm sure someone will come up with a plan on how to divvy up things in Iraq "after" it's over. Assuming, of course, that the cut-and-run crowed doesn't get their way, we may even be in on the plan. If we'd quit WWII after the first 3 years, there'd have ben no Marshall plan, you can be sure.

Also, "the whole world" was not with us on WWII, or else there'd have been no need for war. There WAS another side. Even after the war, Russia was not "with us". All of which points to one thing you're right about, it IS apples and oranges.

>>> tnrhodey at hotmail.com 6/5/2006 6:27:07 am >>>
Herb,

Wasn't there something called the Marshall plan after World War II? Almost 
the whole world was on our side and we were clearly the good guys. Iraq and 
WW II are apples and oranges. We attacked Iraq. The country did not ask for 
our aid.  It was a planned pre-emptive strike. Of course there was a plan. 
Our plan was based on the premise that we would be welcomed. Don't you think 
Iraq and WW II are really apples and oranges?

Every military action has a plan as well as back up plans. Sometimes the 
plans suck. So now that we are there what do we do? Dropping our guns and 
running for the border is out of the question. We made this mess and it is 
up to us to try to clean it up. At this point there are no easy answers. I 
do think we need to be shooting for something sooner rather than later.

Wally


>From: DCLewis1 at aol.com 
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>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics:  How's It Going?
>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:39:08 EDT
>
>
>Herb,
>
>Re a plan for the end of WWII prior  to the end of WWII, I believe if  you
>read reports of the Yalta conference it was pretty much mapped out
>geographically and geo-politically.  American units were deployed and  
>operations were
>timed explicitly to be sure we got our agreed territory vice a  land grab 
>by the
>Soviets.  Additionally, units were identified to occupy  Germany (and I 
>might
>add sufficient and appropriate units, none of this better,  faster, cheaper
>crap, we had boots on the ground).
>
>Additionally, I believe MacArthur had a plan for occupying Japan via the
>existing Emperor based government.  It was not a case of  his standing  on 
>the
>deck of the Missouri in Tokyo bay and wondering aloud "Jeez guys, waddya  
>think
>we ought to do now?".  The need to occupy was clear, explicit  problems 
>with
>any occupation had been identified (which I believe is  why we kept the 
>emperor
>on) and units were available (again, sufficient  units).
>
>But we actually it through back then, that's what's different.
>
>Dave
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