[Rhodes22-list] OT political

[Bill Effros]

Thanks, Todd,

Very interesting.  You never know what you'll learn on this list.

I'll follow up on your information.

Bill Effros


Todd Tavares wrote:
> I usually try to keep silent on threads about politics, but Brad quoted
> Old Honest Abe to prove his point.  I have only been reading about every
> third post on this political thread. Brad, this isn't an attack on you,
> but your included quote, while out of context and to make
> a statement, touched a nerve
>
>   
>> Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime
>>     
> that damage morale and undermine the military are
> saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.
>
> ~ Abraham Lincoln
>
> Let's tell the other side of the story (for discussion purposes only)
> about Abe's quote and his actions.  His Emancipation Proclamation wasn't
> his only famous one (some Marylanders would say infamous one). Your kids
> or grand kids won't read about this in their history books.
>
> Abe appointed himself dictator when he made a proclamation suspending the
> writ of habeas corpus. Some could argue that this proclamation also
> suspended the First Amendment too.  This would have taken an act of
> Congress, which Lincoln knew would never happen, so he waited until
> Congress not in session to make his illegal proclamation.  Numerous
> Maryland legislators were rounded up and jailed without charges,
> including the mayor of Baltimore.  I haven't read where any of them were
> exiled (except a representative from Ohio) or hanged.
>
> When The Supreme Court publicly voiced their opinions that this was
> un-constitutional, Lincoln tried to have some of them arrested too. 
> Lincoln dispatched the marshal of the District of Columbia to arrest
> Chief Justice Roger B. Taney.  Lincoln then sent federal troops out to
> ensure that elections were held and the jailed legislators were replaced
> by men loyal to him - men he could control.
>
> "....government of the people, by the people and for the people..." he'd
> later say.
>
> Todd T.
>
> P.S.  I wonder what our reactions would be if there were video cameras at
> Wounded Knee, .........well you get the idea.
>
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