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[Slim]

Lee,

You're exactly right about hitting the wall at 28.  With that much wind, you
have too much windage on the hull itself to tack and the boat just keeps
getting blown back.  In higher winds sailing upwind you should also have the
pop top down as it also creates a lot of windage and extra heeling.

However you should always be able to jibe.  Clearly, you were way
overpowered and broaching as Wally said.  Every boat is a little different
so we can't tell you exactly when and how much to reef your boat.  But
that's the fun of being a newbie--the experimentation and discovery.  But as
a general rule, when the winds are 15 or more I reef in more than I need to
(both sails) right from the start and and then let them out until I'm happy.
It's much easier, safer, more comfortable and less chaotic to start out
underpowered and add sail gradually.  In fact if the winds are so strong
that you can't tack,  you might find it impossible to reef in the main
because you can't get the wind out of it--then you're screwed.  Also, I can
only reef in my main on a port tack or luffing straight into the wind.

Same goes for the jib.  I have the 175 too.  Start deeply reefed, maybe 75
or 80% and see how that goes before adding any more.  One more detail and
please excuse me if you already know this:  When we say reef to 75%, it
doesn't mean 75% of the sail.  It means the clew of the sail is 75% of the
distance from bow to mast.  Or 100% means the clew just reaches the mast.
And our 175% reaches past the mast and 3/4 of the distance from mast to
stern.

Hope this helps,

Slim  

On 6/6/06 5:32 PM, "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

> 1.  Sorry about the subject line, but if you Google "search
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> site:rhodes22.org" you won't find the posts that tell us new people how
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> to search the archives.  I thought Google might have a better chance of
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> finding it with a different subject line.  I know less about search
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> engines than sailing, so I might be peeing to windward.  Once more for
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> the new people, if you want to search the archives for posts related to
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> "tacking," put tacking site:rhodes22.org in the Google search field.
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> It's worked well for me.  If one of you old-timers has a better method,
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> please share.
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> 2.  HUGE thanks to everyone who contributes to this list.  As a new
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> sailor, I can't tell you how many questions I've had answered by the
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> archives.  So far I've only had two questions that I couldn't get
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> a.    It looks like you can hit theoretical hull speed at 10
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> knots, and most people will reef before 15 knots.  I'll probably figure
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> this out through trial and error, but I'm not that patient.  When and
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> how do you reef?  For example, at 15 knots do you reef 20% of the genoa
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> and none of the mainsail?  What percentage of the genoa and mainsail do
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> you reef at various wind speeds?  I have the 175 decksweeper.
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> b.    I feel really stupid asking this question.  If it gets
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> too windy you can't tack.  It looks like that's about 28 knots with a
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> Rhodes.  Detelin (aka Ditto) commissioned my boat and he did an
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> excellent job.  We were burying the rail and had way too much sail out
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> for the conditions, but I swear there were times when we couldn't jibe.
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> Not tack, jibe.  I thought you could always jibe.  The rudder was all
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> the way down and clutched into position.  Could it be possible that we
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> were heeled so much that there wasn't enough rudder in the water to
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> steer the boat?  Doesn't it seem like the wind would have still pushed
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> the bow to leeward?  I asked the experienced sailors at my marina about
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> this and they confirmed that you can always jibe, but their 40-footers
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> may have too much weight and not enough sail to perform this trick.  Has
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> 3.  Non-sailing discussions.  When I first discovered the rhodes22-list,
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> I was disappointed that so little of it had to do with sailing.  I was
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> also disappointed that some of the members were such rude buttholes.
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> Many of the comments were beyond what you would say to another sailor
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> over a drink in a bar, if you were at all concerned for your own safety.
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> Now that I'm addicted to all the political commentaries and other
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> non-sailing discussions, I also realize that some of the biggest
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> buttholes are also the most helpful to us newbies.  So thanks for
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> Lee
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