[Rhodes22-list] Lake Access (was "Getting ready to trailer boat")

Mon May 8 21:28:01 EDT 2006

More women in bikinis -mjm

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> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:38 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Access (was "Getting ready to trailer boat")
> 
> That brings up an opportunity for some "political discussion" (not much
> of that around here lately) that's tied to sailing
> 
> Lake Grapevine, located in North Texas, is a man-made lake (almost all
> of the lakes in Texas are man-made). About 12 miles long and 1 mile wide
> (these are estimates, I didn't look it up), it's popular among
> sailboaters for number of reasons.
> 
> It's very close to both Dallas and Ft Worth.
> Much of the bottom area is a combination of natural cliffs and "quarry
> made" cliffs, which means that sail boats can safely sail very close to
> the banks of the lake.
> 
> The orientation of the lake corresponds to prevailing winds, enabling
> us to (typically) have nice windward runs going close-hauled almost
> straight up the lake, of course giving us downwind runs on a broad
> reach. While it makes for typically easy sailing, there are enough
> surrounding hills and buildings, along with finicky Texas weather, to
> give some unpredictable wind changes, so it stays interesting (for the
> most part).
> 
> Here's the "problem". As John mentioned, Gaylord entertainment built a
> HUGE hotel right on the bank of the lake, between my marina and the next
> marina north. The hotel is beautiful, if you like large hotels (it also
> gives a significant wind shadow when sailing to the mark at that end of
> the lake, but that's not pertinent to the "problem").
> 
> Because of the popularity of the hotel, the small city of Grapevine
> faces some "expansion issues". One that continually crops up is use of
> the lake and lake front. (There are, I believe, three other cities that
> border the lake, but it appears to mostly be a hot issue in Grapevine).
> There are those that don't want to see further expansion, citing the
> "natural beauty" of the area and crowding of both the shoreline and the
> water.
> 
> How do others feel about similar issues in their area? We're not
> talking about a big hotel that's coming in trying to force out the
> marinas (the type of problem they have in Florida). We're just talking
> about other "entities" (some directly water related, some not) wanting
> to share the lake.
> 
> Here are a few examples:
> 
> An outside paintball arena. This has already been built and opened,
> about ½ mile from the shoreline, in spite of some very vocal opposition
> by some residents.
> 
> A new nightclub (owned by the hotel, going up just west of it, on a
> bluff overlooking the lake).
> 
> Expansion of an existing city park that allows extended stays of RV's,
> and has cabins for overnight guests. This too has already been opened,
> directly across from my marina.
> 
> A proposed business located in the above mentioned park, offering
> rental small craft including "water trikes" (the big three-wheeled water
> tricycles).
> 
> Another large hotel across from the existing one (about ½ mile from the
> lake). Approved, but construction hasn't started yet.
> 
> A condominium with docks on the lake. This has been proposed, but to
> the best of my knowledge, not yet approved.
> 
> Another "wrinkle" in all of this is the fact that all of the above is
> in the northeast portion of the lake. Most of the rest of the lake
> currently seems to be mostly ignored.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> Herb Parsons
> 
> S/V O'Jure
> 1976 O'Day 25
> Lake Grapevine, N TX
> 
> S/V Reve de Papa
> 1971 Coronado 35
> Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> 
> >>> jhnblngr at yahoo.com 5/8/2006 1:00:15 pm >>>
> small indeed! i'm always amazed at how many people even know where
> grapevine is let alone having been here. now that we have the gaylord
> texan resort here its really taken off. thanks and welcome john b
> 
> Ellner <ellner at pressenter.com> wrote:  Hi Y'all!! It definitely is a
> small world. We live in Wisconsin & own a
> Rhodes......were in Austin, TX this past week to visit my
> daughter.....and
> I spent Friday in Grapevine, TX at a nursing home visiting my great
> aunt! Mary/SV Toy Blew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:00 AM 5/8/2006 -0400, you wrote:
> >Kari,
> >I have some of the same questions as John. If you've already sold it
> back
> >to Stan, questions may be mute. But if it's not a done deal, there
> are
> >people looking for boats on this list. Sorry to hear you are selling
> your
> >Rhodes. Hope that means something better is coming your way.
> >
> >Rob Lowe
> >S/V Getaway
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "john Belanger"
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:40 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Getting ready to trailer boat
> >
> >
> > > kari
> > > could you send some pics of your boat? why do you have to sell it
> and is
> >it a good deal for you to sell it back to stan? what year is it and
> where
> >did you sail it. i'm in grapevine and am curious about how you used it
> ie
> >daysailing or cruising, dry sailed or in the water at a marina. i'm
> >gathering info cash, and courage for buying one but am not quite there
> yet.
> >thanks john b
> > >
> > > Kari Day wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Sadly my husband & I are selling our Rhodes. We are
> > > selling it back to Stan. Since we are in Dallas we are
> > > trailering it back to Edenton. The only experience we
> > > have with the trailer is when we bought it and brought
> > > it home.
> > >
> > > Some dumb questions - To load the boat the manual says
> > > to follow the directions in reverse. Is it really
> > > exactly in reverse or is there some things that should
> > > be done before anything else? Second - I see a lot
> > > about raising the mast, but not so much about lowering
> > > it. What are the steps? Is it better to lower the mast
> > > at the dock with the boat in the water or after the
> > > boat is loaded on the trailer. There are no electrical
> > > lines near the boat ramp.
> > > BTW-we have Stan's mast raising equipment.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance. I know from reading this is a
> > > generous group.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kari & Joe Day
> > >
> > >
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