[Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project

Wed May 10 15:40:29 EDT 2006

Thanks Bud; I'll put that suggestion in the mix.

Claude

> [Original Message]
> From: Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 5/10/2006 2:27:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project
>
> Claude,
>   if you decide to protect your VHF with just an in-line fuse, you 
> should consider putting
> that fuse as close to the battery as possible.   If the fuse is near the 
> radio and the wire
> gets shorted-out somewhere along the run, the fuse will provide no 
> protection.
>
> -Bud
>
> Claude Cox wrote:
>
> >Bud;
> >
> >At present, 6 circuits: cabin lights, nav lights, steaming light, anchor
> >light, instruments, and VHF.  However, given the current discussion with
> >Saroj about VHF connections, and that I may put the cabin lights and
anchor
> >light on the same circuit, there could be four.
> >
> >Claude  
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>[Original Message]
> >>From: Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net>
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Date: 5/10/2006 6:24:05 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project
> >>
> >>Claude,
> >>  how many circuits are you planning to install?
> >>
> >>-Bud Connor
> >>
> >>Claude Cox wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Todd;
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your response.  You are not out of order for suggesting I
may
> >>>      
> >>>
> >be
> >  
> >
> >>>in over my head on this project.  I have been trying to get with one of
> >>>      
> >>>
> >the
> >  
> >
> >>>best marine electrics person in the area, but he is incredibly busy. 
> >>>Should I reach the point where I recognize my incompetence to proceed
> >>>further, I'll try a professional.  Rummy has offered to help as long
as I
> >>>keep the rum barrel full, and I know he has completed several
electrical
> >>>upgrades, so I may put out for the rum, and call him in.
> >>>
> >>>You asked a few questions:  my boat is set up fairly simply--nav
lights,
> >>>cabin lights, steaming light, instruments, and VHF.  The two Grp 27
> >>>wet-cell batteries that came with the boat have died from benign
> >>>      
> >>>
> >neglect. 
> >  
> >
> >>>What I know about DC circuits is what I've read in preparation for this
> >>>project--I understand the basics, but I am a visual learner, and it
would
> >>>be most helpful to see this stuff done by a pro at least once.  What
do I
> >>>know about AC circuits?  Stay the hell away from it unless you know
what
> >>>you are doing.  I appreciate your suggestion to do the simpler things
> >>>      
> >>>
> >now,
> >  
> >
> >>>and let a pro tackle the AC stuff later, and, as a matter of fact, have
> >>>been considering just that.  A simple wiring schematic would not be a
> >>>problem.  I had thought of paralleling batteries to double the amp
hours.
> >>>
> >>>The original location of the electrical panel (just above the step into
> >>>      
> >>>
> >the
> >  
> >
> >>>cabin) is somewhat vulnerable--more than once I have kicked the panel,
> >>>unintentionally closing a circuit.  In addition, the space will not
> >>>accommodate the larger panel I'm planning to install.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your questions; keep asking--you may ask me some I should
have
> >>>thought of, but didn't.
> >>>
> >>>Claude    
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>From: Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> >>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>Date: 5/8/2006 11:56:57 PM
> >>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project
> >>>>
> >>>>Claude,
> >>>>
> >>>>Comparing your list of electrical wiring necessities and desires to
your
> >>>>questions of actually doing the wiring....and forgive me for saying
> >>>>this....but it seems you may be in a bit over your head.  I am basing
> >>>>this assumption on your questions about wiring lights in a series on
the
> >>>>same circuit.  I am afraid to think about how to explain to you, how
to
> >>>>do advanced wiring like tying AC shore power in to the boats
electrical
> >>>>system, paralleling batteries, adding in chargers, monitors, and 110v
> >>>>outlets.  Maybe some of us here can help get you started with the
basic
> >>>>DC system first.  Then down the road you could tackle the shore power,
> >>>>chargers, outlets, and monitors.
> >>>>
> >>>>Let me ask you a few basic questions so we know where to start
helping.
> >>>>
> >>>>How is your boat set up now? 
> >>>>
> >>>>How much do you know about (DC) electrical circuits?
> >>>>
> >>>>How much do you know about (AC) circuits?
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you know how to read simple wiring schematics, and understand the
> >>>>difference between series and parallel circuits?
> >>>>
> >>>>Why do you want to relocate the main electrical panel?
> >>>>
> >>>>Todd T.
> >>>>
> >>>>(I know Michael is cringing right now)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Claude Cox"
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
> >>>> Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:29:49 -0400
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Everyone;
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't say much on the list, but I lurk, and listen real good.
> >>>> For those of you who don't know me: Celtic Lass is docked at
> >>>> Aqualand Marina, Lake Lanier, 45 minutes from Atlanta. She is a
> >>>> recycled (2000) 1986, and has become like a project boat, as I am
> >>>> upgrading the electrical system in preparation for doing some
> >>>> serious trailer sailing. It is around this project that my issues
> >>>> revolve. I have looked in the archives for help, and, while
> >>>> getting some good info, I don't get all that I need. Knowing of
> >>>> the vast expertise on this list, I have worked up the courage to
> >>>> put my issues before you, and seek your help with a project that
> >>>> sometimes feels overwhelming.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have gutted the cabin, leaving only the galley counter top,
> >>>> compression post/panel, and the potty; this to see the wire "runs"
> >>>> to determine if I could do the necessary wiring/re-wiring. I am:
> >>>> (1) moving the electrical panel to a spot above the galley and on
> >>>> the compression post/panel that separates the galley from the
> >>>> V-berth; (2) installing two Grp 27 Lifeline AGM batteries,
> >>>> paralleled; a battery monitor; a battery charger; a couple of 12VDC
> >>>> outlets; a 110 V outlet; a 30A shore-power inlet, and an anchor
> >>>> light.
> >>>>
> >>>> I understand what's to be done. I've read and re-read Don Casey
> >>>> (Sailboat Electrics Simplified), and Charlie Wing (Boatowner's
> >>>> Illustrated Handbook of Wiring). Understanding is not the
> >>>> problem--execution is. For example: I will have nav lights on one
> >>>> circuit, cabin lights on one circuit, and steaming light, anchor
> >>>> light, instruments, and VHF each on their own cirucit. How do I do
> >>>> the wiring, especially lights in a series on the same circuit (I'm
> >>>> asking about actually doing the wiritng correctly)? What am I
> >>>> missing here? I feel like there are other questions I should ask,
> >>>> but don't know what they are. Maybe some of you know. If you do,
> >>>> I would greatly appreciate knowing what they are.
> >>>>
> >>>> This has been a long post, I know, and I appreciate you taking time
> >>>> to read it. As a retired school teacher, I can't say anything
> >>>> briefly. All responses will be much appreciated, and I will
> >>>> certainly keep the list posted as to my progress.
> >>>>
> >>>> Claude
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Claude Cox
> >>>> cccox at mindspring.com
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