[Rhodes22-list] Reply to the ranters

Sat May 20 22:21:37 EDT 2006

To borrow an expression from Bill Effros, here's a
"quote without comment."  Brad

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'JEWS MUST WEAR YELLOW' 

May 20, 2006 -- It is a frightening scene that
hearkens back to a monstrous crime: Iranian President
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who openly denies that the
Holocaust ever happened, now seeks to recreate the
catastrophe's earliest moments. 

As columnist Amir Taheri discloses elsewhere in
today's Post, Ahmadinejad has pushed through the
parliament, or Majlis, a law requiring all Jews in
Iran to sew yellow strips of cloth to their clothes -
and wear a special ID insignia. 

And not just Jews: All non-Muslims, including
Christians, Hindus, Bahai and Buddhists, must wear
clothes that conform to a specific color scheme for
their respective faiths - badges that warn Muslims
against having physical contact with "unclean" people.

Christians would be assigned the color red;
Zoroastrians would have to wear Persian blue. Muslims
would also be required to wear strict Islamic garb. 

But the selection of yellow for Iran's 25,000 Jews is
especially odious: One of the earliest pieces of
anti-Jewish legislation in Nazi Germany required all
Jews to wear a yellow Star of David on the front of
their clothes. Intended as a mark of shame, this patch
also helped single out Jews for persecution. 

Soon the Jews were more than stigmatized; they were
shipped to death camps. 

The new Iranian law actually dates back to 2004, but
was blocked within the Majlis. Now that Ahmadinejad
has lifted roadblock - who has also threatened to
obliterate Israel. Which is why the echoes from Nazi
Germany are so ominous. 

And it is yet another sign that Iran, under
Ahmadinejad, is testing the rest of the world's
resolve regarding Tehran's nascent nuclear-weapons
program - even as Hitler tested the will of Europe
with his piecemeal territorial expansion in the runup
to World War II. 

If so, the prospect is worrisome. The European Union,
save perhaps for Britain, wants to avoid confrontation
with Iran. Just yesterday, the EU asked Washington to
consider selling Iran airplanes - to modernize its
fleet - as an inducement to cooperate on the nuclear
issue. 

Sadly, the new law demonstrates that the Islamic
Revolution of 1979 was only the beginning of
theocratic repression of the people - now Iran is
marching to realize the revolutionaries' most extreme
ideological goals. 

That is not an ideology that is open to negotiation
and conciliation. America learned this lesson with the
444-day hostage crisis. The world cannot afford to
face a similar demonstration.

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--- john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> to some degree these are apples and oranges. the
> democracy you want to see isn't possible without
> great effort and cooperation. in iraq and
> afghanistan you are taking power from those who had
> it and transfering it to those who never had it.
> being the protector in this case is impossible
> because we can't take sides and no side wants to be
> on our side. two sects of islam are united only in
> their distaste for christians. i'm just simply
> embarrassed by the whole mess. no country in the
> world could have done the job we've done to
> ourselves. on the other hand we poured money into
> germany and japan (and all of europe for that
> matter) because we didn't want to lose them to
> communism. i wonder sometimes if we really
> understand the middle east at all. perhaps general
> scwartzkoff said it best ( he was raised in the
> middle  east) " you have to understand that in the
> middle east there is no one answer". as long as we
> keep looking for one answer there will be no
> solution. remember that
>  this country took in its immigrants over a period
> of time and they fought several wars against foriegn
> wouldbe aggressors and a civil war to unify the
> people against foes to its existence, internal and
> external. we are all hopefull that new and improved
> versions of these ancient cultures can be forged
> from the remains of the old. but  i'm saying,
> somewhat tongue in cheek here, you're trying to
> unify the peoples most directly affected by what
> occurred as a result of building that other tower.
> the tower of babble. anyone?
> 
> "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> wrote:  Ed,
> 
> Good points. If we had not stayed in Germany, what
> are the odds that the Iron Curtain would have come
> down?
> What are the odds that we could have maintained
> stability on the Korean Peninsula had we not kept
> our presence in Japan. 
> 
> What many wonder is whether this transplant of
> democracy will have to persist on an enormously high
> maintenance basis. Like Saddam said in testimony -
> "hot blooded people". Our precious democracy is
> respected by enough Americans who will do anything
> to preserve it, what will it take for the Iraqis to
> get as passionate?
> 
> Art
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: ed kroposki 
> >Sent: May 20, 2006 5:33 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to Dave Lewis and
> his fellow travelers
> >
> >Dave,
> > Your illustrations were good. Then you said, "We
> did not hang
> >around for "nation building", the message was, "you
> do it again, we'll do it
> >again". Seems like a good approach to me with
> regards to Afghanistan and
> >Iraq.
> > However, it did not say that you picked and choose
> only one style of
> >actions. You did not say how long the U. S. Army
> stayed in Germany and
> >Japan after WW2. 
> > If you would please answer the question how long
> the U. S stayed in
> >Germany after World War 2.
> > I have a different opinion than you. I do not
> believe that we
> >should walk away and leave the general populace to
> thugs, goons and jerks.
> >Stan gave us an illustration of the type of jerks
> over there. However, I
> >would not presume that all the people there are the
> same type jerks. If you
> >look at alternative sources of information even you
> might find good people
> >that need support to succeed. 
> > You call it nation building. Many ask why the
> United States should
> >do the 'nation building'? The answer to me is
> simple. It is the right
> >thing to do. To walk away and leave the goons to
> rape, pillage and plunder
> >is wrong. I guess I have a different sense of right
> and wrong than you do.
> > Can you please answer the question how long we
> stayed in Japan and
> >Germany? What were the results?
> >
> >Ed K
> >Greenville, SC, USA 
> >
> >
> >
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