[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22

[Hank]

George,

I have heard a lot of good comments about airforce sails,
http://www.airforcesails.com/.  They belonged to Sailnet before Sailnet went
under.  They're now affiliated with the original owners of Sailnet, Sam and
Cheryl Boyle, http://www.sailjazz.com.

I've heard they are good sails and about 2/3 the cost of most traditional
lofts.

Hank

On 5/22/06, George Carpenter <geocarp3 at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> Bob:  I'm hitch hiking on your message to Rex about the genoa. I received
> my
> '91 recycled Rhodes from Stan last year and LOVE it. I did however, choose
> the Doyle 175 and have found it, as you said, heavy and poorly shaped in
> light winds. Since my winds (Iowa) are normally 10-20 I think a 155 would
> work quite fine. Do you have any recommendations of a sail loft?
>
>     George Carpenter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>
>
> > Rex, Congratulations - The questions have just started most likely.  You
> > will be able to catch Don on most points of sail in winds up to 10  and
> > you will keep pace with him in higher winds if you have some rail meat.
> > What color are you thinking?  The red is sharp.  Keep in touch.  Bob
> >
> >
> >>From: Charles Henthorn <rexh at sbcglobal.net>
> >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >>Bob:
> >>     Thanks again for all your help.  I"ve contacted Stan and we're
> >> working on a boat for me.
> >>   Rex
> >>
> >>
> >>Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>   Rex, good questions - here goes
> >>
> >>My only
> >>concern was running with the main because the inner shrouds will not
> >>permit
> >>you
> >>to really let the main out fully.
> >>Yes it gets out about 80 degrees before contacting the shroud. I have
> >>found
> >>this to be the case on other keel boats. The boat does not sail well
> >>straight down wind unless you are winged - but I don't like running
> anyway
> >>and will almost always opt for two broad reaches over running. The boom
> >>angle for broad reaching is not bad.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>So long as your using the genoa, it appears
> >>the main isn't really going to be driving the boat anyway.
> >>You are a quick learner.
> >>
> >>
> >>I forgot to ask the location of the battery.
> >>It is under the V-bearth - the two battery set up has a second battery
> >>under
> >>the port settee.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>The other question I wanted to ask but
> >>forgot until we were on our way back, the pop-top creates one more
> >>potential
> >>opening to the cabin that might make it more vulnerable to the
> >>weather----does
> >>it seal itself pretty well when the boat is unattended and locked up?
> >>I was getting some slight water incursions right by the door and made
> >>cover
> >>for the doghouse which solved the problem. I need to reseat a port light
> -
> >>I don't think it is a design flaw I must have just done a bad job when I
> >>did
> >>it last year.
> >>
> >>
> >>What %
> >>genoa is yours?
> >>155 - I think it is the perfect combination - recommend it over the 175
> or
> >>less sail (unless you are in a real windy area) If you get a choice - I
> >>think there are better head sails than the doyel. It is heavy and looses
> >>shape off the wind. That would be an upgrade I would consider if I were
> to
> >>do it again.
> >>
> >>
> >>Did you get other foresails --- if so which and would you do it
> >>the same way?
> >>If I replace the furler I will get one where i can change headsails
> >>without
> >>dropping the mast. A light 175 or a strom sail would be nice to have.
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> >Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >
> >> >Bob: Not sure this message a week ago last Sunday got delivered.
> >> >Re-sending it just in case.
> >> >
> >> > Bob:
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for being such a great host yesterday on Lake Carlyle. Don
> >> >and I both enjoyed ourselves and learned a lot about your Rhodes22. I
> >> >was
> >> >impressed with its performance and stability. My guess is that those
> >>winds
> >> >were gusting to 25 knots at times and it just kept on truckin. It
> turns
> >> >on a dime. My only concern was running with the main because the inner
> >> >shrouds will not permit you to really let the main out fully. So long
> as
> >> >your using the genoa, it appears the main isn't really going to be
> >>driving
> >> >the boat anyway.
> >> > I forgot to ask the location of the battery. Despite all the storage
> >> >facilities I opened, I never saw it. The other question I wanted to
> ask
> >> >but forgot until we were on our way back, the pop-top creates one more
> >> >potential opening to the cabin that might make it more vulnerable to
> the
> >> >weather----does it seal itself pretty well when the boat is unattended
> >>and
> >> >locked up? What % genoa is yours? Did you get other foresails --- if
> so
> >> >which and would you do it the same way?
> >> > Thanks again Bob.
> >> > Rex
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Bob Weber wrote: Rex, sure give me a call.
> >> >314-960-3226 BW
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > >
> >> > >Bob:
> >> > > Just checked the weather for your area this afternoon and Saturday
> >> > >looks like 30% chance of rain and 7 mph winds unless the forecaster
> is
> >> > >wrong or some system messes up their prediction. To me, 30% is
> better
> >> >than
> >> > >70% and this forecast doesn't make a difference but it may to you.
> >> > >What
> >> > >time in the morning do you rise on Saturday and would you want me to
> >>call
> >> > >just before we load up Sat morning and head your direction (just in
> >>case
> >> > >its one of those days that you would prefer not being out).
> >> > > Rex
> >> > >
> >> > >Bob Weber wrote:
> >> > > Rex, Sound fine I will look for you around noon. Call me when you
> get
> >> > >closer at 314-960-3226. I get coverage at about 85% of the lake. If
> we
> >> > >fail to connect you can get me on the VHF - Hail Ruba. The marina
> does
> >> >not
> >> > >have a VHF but There will be many sailors around the marina and any
> >> > >one
> >> >of
> >> > >them would be glad to let you squwalk me up. Bob
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > > >Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Bob:
> >> > > > Current plan (subject to change if weather goofs us up) is to
> leave
> >> > > >here about 8:00 a.m. Indiana time (which I think is 7:00 your
> time),
> >> >grab
> >> > > >something to eat on the way, and hope to get there some time
> between
> >> > >11:00
> >> > > >and 12:00 your time. On assumption that this plan works for you,
> >>we'll
> >> > > >want to return in time to get home by nightfall which means we'd
> >> >probably
> >> > > >need to head back no later than 4 p.m. your time. We need not
> spend
> >>all
> >> > > >that time on or around the boat so however it works out the best
> for
> >> >you
> >> > > >and the student will be OK. Hopefully this gives you some
> >> > > >flexibility
> >> >to
> >> > > >work out something with (him)(her). I don't know what you need to
> >> > > >accomplish with the student but we could even travel along with
> you
> >> > >during
> >> > > >the lesson unless too distracting --- however, I've talked to Don
> >> > > >(my
> >> > > >buddy) and we have agreed that if we go along during the lesson
> that
> >> > > >neither of us want to be the MOB in case that's one of the lessons
> >> >being
> >> > > >taught.
> >> > > > Rex
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Bob Weber wrote:
> >> > > > Rex, I got you down for Saturday - I may try to squeze in a
> student
> >>in
> >> > > >the
> >> > > >morning or afternoon ( we got partially weathered out yesterday ).
> >>Let
> >> >me
> >> > > >know if anything changes. Bob
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > > > >Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 06:33:52 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Bob:
> >> > > > > Still have you on the calendar for Saturday if that still works
> >>for
> >> > > > >you. The Friday night run sounds like fun but the Admiral has
> >> > > > >plans
> >> >for
> >> > > >me
> >> > > > >Friday nite.
> >> > > > > I'll check the wind for Saturday mid-week in case it's not
> going
> >>to
> >> > > > >be a good day.
> >> > > > > If you don't mind, I've asked a good friend of mine to make the
> >>trip
> >> > > > >with me to avoid traveling alone. He owns a 23' Seaward that
> I've
> >> > >sailed
> >> > > > >and enjoy. I've notice General Boat has a link to Seaward on its
> >> > > > >website---do you know the connection?
> >> > > > > Rex
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
> >> > > > > Rex, I got you down for the 13th. Hey it is a full moon. If I
> get
> >> >the
> >> > > > >admirals approval I may go out there Friday evening and get some
> >> >night
> >> > > > >sailing in. Short of a monsoon I will plan to be there. The
> >> > > > >website
> >> >for
> >> > > > >the marina is http://www.tradewindsmarina.net/ There is
> directions
> >> >from
> >> > > > >I-70 and I-55 which is what I guess you will be using. Glad we
> >> > > > >were
> >> > >able
> >> > > >to
> >> > > > >find a date - hopefully mother nature gives a good day to take
> the
> >> >R-22
> >> > > >thu
> >> > > > >her paces. Drop me a note if anything changes or if you decide
> to
> >> >stay
> >> > > >the
> >> > > > >night. Bob
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > > > > >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 14:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >Bob:
> >> > > > > > Sat 5/13 might work for me if it works for you and the
> forecast
> >> >next
> >> > > > > >week is favorable. Late morning would be good because I might
> >> > > > > >try
> >> >to
> >> > >do
> >> > > > > >it in one day --- leave early and head back early afternoon
> (you
> >> >know
> >> > > > >I've
> >> > > > > >got to get back for "Admiral's Day" on Sunday). On assumption
> we
> >> >can
> >> > > > > >eventually agree on a time, can you give me more detail on how
> >> > > > > >to
> >> >get
> >> > > > >there
> >> > > > > >from the Interstate?
> >> > > > > > Rex
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
> >> > > > > > Rex, I am a 9:00 - 5:00er M-F charged with the important task
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > >selling
> >> > > > > >A-B
> >> > > > > >products to the people of St. Louis. Taking off in the near
> >>future
> >> > >will
> >> > > > >be
> >> > > > > >difficult since we are short handed for the next month. Take a
> >>look
> >> > >at
> >> > > > >the
> >> > > > > >19th or another weekend day and lemme know. Bob
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >Bob:
> >> > > > > > > Thanks for the hospitality. I'm checking schedules now. Are
> >>you
> >> > > > > > >typically busy during the week too? As I indicated, Fridays
> >> > > > > > >and
> >> > > >Mondays
> >> > > > > > >could work for me if planned in advance --- for example I
> >> > >potentially
> >> > > > > >could
> >> > > > > > >take off Fri 12th or Mon 15th if everything works right. I
> >> > >understand
> >> > > > > > >whatever we plan --- Mother Nature always has the last word
> >> > > > > > >but
> >> > > >several
> >> > > > > > >websites will give a wind forecast about 3 days in advance.
> >> > > > > > > Stan has agreed to hold a boat for me until I can check out
> >>the
> >> > > > > > >Rhodes in person but, in good faith, I feel compelled to
> >> > > > > > >either
> >> > > >pursue
> >> > > > > >his
> >> > > > > > >boat or let him deal with others as soon as I can.
> >> > > > > > >Rex
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
> >> > > > > > > Rex, I will be instructing on Sunday May 7th. I am trying
> to
> >> > > >negotiate
> >> > > > > > >with
> >> > > > > > >the admiral to go out to the lake after a famiily commitment
> >> > >Saturday
> >> > > > > > >afternoon. So I may be out there with the family Saturday
> >>evening
> >> >-
> >> > > > >very
> >> > > > > > >weather dependent. The following two weekends are open. I
> have
> >>a
> >> > > >class
> >> > > > > > >scheduled for May 19 but have no deposits yet. If no
> interest
> >>by
> >> > >May
> >> > > >9
> >> > > > >I
> >> > > > > > >will cancel the cabins I had reserved. I can hold on to one
> if
> >> >you
> >> > > >like
> >> > > > > > >that weekend and want to stay overnight. Let me know. Bob
> >> > > > > > >Weber
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >Bob:
> >> > > > > > > > I think I would like to take you up on your offer to give
> >> > > > > > > > me
> >>a
> >> > > >ride
> >> > > > > > > >in your Rhodes. I checked your schedules & it would appear
> >>that
> >> >I
> >> > > > >need
> >> > > > > >to
> >> > > > > > > >ask you what, if any, dates are available for me to head
> >> > > > > > > >over
> >> >in
> >> > > >your
> >> > > > > > > >direction after May 7 ---- I'm still working full-time
> (Mon
> >>--
> >> > >Fri)
> >> > > > >but
> >> > > > > >I
> >> > > > > > > >preparing to retire soon and could, if necessary, take off
> >> > > > > > > >on
> >>a
> >> > > > >Friday
> >> > > > > >or
> >> > > > > > >a
> >> > > > > > > >Monday if weekends are bad for you.
> >> > > > > > > > Rex
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > Rex, I have a R-22 in the water and ready to sail in
> >> > > > > > > > Carlyle
> >> >IL.
> >> > > > >About
> >> > > > > >4
> >> > > > > > > >hour drive from you. There is another person who has a
> boat
> >> >near
> >> > > > > >Michigan
> >> > > > > > > >City but he is probably not in the water yet. If you
> decide
> >>to
> >> > >make
> >> > > > >the
> >> > > > > > > >trek to Carlyle there is cheap lodging near the marina.
> Let
> >>me
> >> > > >know.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >Bob Weber
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
> >> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > > > > > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> > > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
> >> > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:11:02 -0800 (PST)
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > TO: Midwest owners
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > I'm in the market for a sailboat and interested in
> seeing
> >>a
> >> > > > >Rhodes22
> >> > > > > > >'in
> >> > > > > > > > >the flesh' having read the website. I've been in contact
> >>with
> >> > > >Stan
> >> > > > >at
> >> > > > > > > > >General Boats who suggested that I post my name and
> >> > > > > > > > >address
> >> >to
> >> > > >see
> >> > > > >if
> >> > > > > > > >there
> >> > > > > > > > >is someone within a reasonable driving distance of my
> >> >location
> >> > > >that
> >> > > > > > >might
> >> > > > > > > > >have one they would be willing to show me as I continue
> >>with
> >> >my
> >> > > > > > >research.
> >> > > > > > > > >Is there a Rhodes22 within the environs of
> Crawfordsville
> >> > >Indiana
> >> > > > > > >(about
> >> > > > > > > >45
> >> > > > > > > > >mi north&west of Indianapolis) (30 mi south of Lafayette
> >> >IN)(60
> >> > > >mi
> >> > > > > >east
> >> > > > > > > >of
> >> > > > > > > > >Champagne-Urbana IL) that the owner might make available
> >>for
> >> >me
> >> > > >to
> >> > > > > >see
> >> > > > > > > >and
> >> > > > > > > > >get a feel for what a Rhodes22 is all about?
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Rex Henthorn
> >> > > > > > > > > rexh at sbcglobal.net
> >> > > > > > > > >
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