[Rhodes22-list] My other "boat"

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Thu Nov 2 13:00:35 EST 2006


Philip,

It ran fine for 150 hrs after the overhaul and the first two legs for me.
Here is another "curveball" that I'll never have the answer to: the overhaul
shop was busted by the FAA a few months before this pump was re-worked for
"discrepancies".  That could mean paperwork or it could mean shoddy
workmanship.  They sent the pump back with another "overhaul" at no charge -
I'm sure to keep me quiet.  All logic would dictate that the original
problem I experienced would lead one to believe that the engine pump
failed.  We'll see.

These types of problems are the most difficult to solve.  My wife has been
bitching at me for months to fix the electric door locks on her Honda
Accord.  Last night they worked fine and I asked, "what's the big issue,
they look like they work fine to me".

"They only work when it is cold and wet".

"So only drive when it is cold or wet!"  You can imagine how well that went
over.

This fuel issue may well be something similar.  It may only happen rarely
when the right combination of environmental circumstances occur.  I'll use
the electric back-up for takeoff and landing and see if it happens again.

Brad


On 11/2/06, 3drecon at comcast.net <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>   Could it be the engine pump wasn't installed properly after the first
> overhaul?  I had that happen to on a engine I worked on.  We didn't quite
> get the fuel pump right.  It looked ok, but wouldn't work.  Once we took it
> off and reinstalled it, it worked fine.  Other considerations would be
> vapour lock, contamination, temporary line blockage.  You guys probably know
> more about it than I do.  Be careful, you can't just pull over ; ' ).
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>
> > Philip,
> >
> > That's one of the things we're looking at right now. The overhaul
> facility
> > re-overhauled the pump at no charge. One of the theories we're floating
> is
> > that air (or vacuum) got in the pump and caused it to fail but what we
> can't
> > figure out is why it ran on the electric pump. Maybe it was just a
> > different pressure differential. I have to work this afternoon and the
> pump
> > won't be installed until mid-day. Tomorrow I'm going to fly it around a
> bit
> > and see what happens.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > On 11/2/06, 3drecon at comcast.net <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brad,
> > > A few years ago my Harley quit on me on the highway for no apparent
> > > reason (I just had to pull over). It turned out to be the tank vent.
> After
> > > it sucked out so much fuel, a vacuum developed and no more fuel would
> > > flow. I opened the cap and it ran fine. I bought a new cap.
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: "Brad Haslett"
> > >
> > > > Rummy,
> > > >
> > > > As we speak, your boat is faster than my airplane. I'm headed to the
> > > > airport this morning to see if the fuel pump has been re-installed.
> It
> > > > tested fine on the bench at the overhaul facility. The original
> problem
> > > was
> > > > the engine quit at 4500 feet on the left tank. I turned on the
> electric
> > > > backup and she re-lit. Then I switched to the right tank, turned off
> the
> > > > electric pump, and she quit again. Just to be safe, I climbed
> another
> > > two
> > > > thousand feet and kept a close eye on the GPS nearest airport
> display.
> > > >
> > > > Obviously, the engine driven pump is bad, both my mechanic and I
> > > > agreed. NOT! The tech guru from the Bonanza Society suggested
> looking at
> > > > the fuel cap vents and seals. I hate these kind of mysteries.
> > > >
> > > > This bird has the STC for auto-gas but I was running straight 100
> octane
> > > > low-lead avgas at the time. Once we solve the fuel delivery issues,
> the
> > > > plan is to fill the right main and aux tank with BP (Amaco) 93
> octane at
> > > a
> > > > buck to a buck-and-half less per gallon. The Bo' burns about 12
> gallons
> > > per
> > > > hour versus 9 for the Mooney M20C (what I almost bought) but is ten
> > > knots
> > > > faster. With auto-fuel the operating cost, at least as far as fuel
> is
> > > > concerned, is about the same.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, in the "ramp stabilization mode" where she sits right
> now,
> > > the
> > > > fuel cost is zero.
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/2/06, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/2/2006 2:36:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > jhnblngr at yahoo.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/26/bo3.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > > She must have IMF?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rummy
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