[Rhodes22-list] Happens to Everyone

Tue Nov 7 09:30:24 EST 2006

I had to move a pontoon boat from Hartwell when the COE drained the lake low a few summers ago.  The 'logs', just like the bottom of any boat, compressed the mud so much that the suction to the bottom could not be broken without significantly higher water level.  It will be interesting to see if a spring tide can help much at all.
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>Sent: Nov 7, 2006 9:20 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Happens to Everyone
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>John,
>
>I'm not an expert on this, just read the news.  As I remember it, they 
>removed a lot of ballast, dredged a channel, emptied water tanks, and 
>tried the move on one of the highest tides of the year.  I think she has 
>been there for 24 years.  I believe she moved 15 feet and a propeller 
>got stuck in the muck.  They are now talking about repairing her where 
>she sits.   Google for more info.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>john Belanger wrote:
>> is she too heavy? may have to remove some weight. seems she would be light since shes a museum, not fighting weight and filled with fuel, planes, and ordinance. if they dredge next to her she should come loose. not much tide rise/fall where she is located. how long has she been in that berth?
>>
>> Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:  Intrepid Stuck, Move Scrubbed for Now
>>
>>
>>
>> Nov 6, 11:48 AM (ET)
>>
>> By PAT MILTON
>>
>> (AP) Tugboats work to free the USS (CV-11) from its muddy footing at 
>> Pier 86 on the west side...
>> Full Image 
>> (http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061106/USS_INTREPID.sff_NYJD101_20061106105333.html?date=20061106&docid=D8L7MEO81)
>>
>> NEW YORK (AP) - The legendary aircraft carrier USS Intrepid got stuck in 
>> the deep Hudson River mud Monday as powerful tugboats fought to pull it 
>> free to tow the floating museum downriver for a $60 million overhaul.
>>
>> The mission was scrubbed for the day at around 10:30 a.m. as the tide 
>> went down, said Dan Bender, a Coast Guard spokesman. There was no 
>> immediate word when the effort would resume.
>>
>> After 24 years at the same pier on West Side, the World War II warship 
>> began inching backward out of its berth, but moved only about 15 feet 
>> before its giant propellers jammed in the thick mud. The decommissioned 
>> war ship no longer has engines of its own.
>>
>> "We knew it was not going to come out like a cruise ship," said Matt 
>> Woods, the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum's vice president for operations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Six tugboats had strained to move the giant ship.
>>
>>
>> "We were able to move her 15 feet, and then she came to a halt. We tried 
>> to add more power with another tugboat but we couldn't wiggle her free," 
>> said Jeffrey McAllister, the chief pilot of the tugboat operation.
>>
>> "We were missing our open window. We had to give up because the tides 
>> were going down," he added. "She was moving, we were hopeful, she 
>> started to creep along but then she stopped."
>>
>> "It was very disappointing," said McAllister.
>>
>> Monday's departure was timed to take advantage of the yearly high tide 
>> so the tugs could pull the 27,000-ton ship out of the slip where it has 
>> rested in up to 17 feet of mud. Removal of 600 tons of water from the 
>> Intrepid's ballast tanks gave the ship added buoyancy, and dredges 
>> removed 15,000 cubic yards of mud to create a channel from dockside to 
>> deeper water.
>>
>>
>>
>> The carrier's $60 million refurbishment, which is expected to take up to 
>> 2 years, will include opening up more interior spaces to the public, 
>> upgrading its exhibits and a bow-to-stern paint job in naval haze-gray. 
>> The pier will also be completely rebuilt in the Intrepid's absence. The 
>> city is contributing $17 million, the state $5 million, the $36 
>> million, plus $2 million in private funds.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just before the ceremony, officials expressed optimism about being able 
>> to move the aircraft carrier.
>>
>> "The people doing this have moved a thousand ships bigger than the 
>> Intrepid," Intrepid president Bill White said earlier. "A ship that 
>> survived five kamikaze attacks is going to make it five miles down river."
>>
>> Elected officials, who served on the Intrepid and others had waited on 
>> the flight deck for the beginning of the five miles down the river to a 
>> dry dock in Bayonne, N.J. Helicopters flew overhead; New York Police 
>> Department blue-and-white power boats, boats and a Coast Guard cutter 
>> were on hand to accompany the aircraft carrier.
>>
>> "The Intrepid stands for everything we believe in ... our freedom and 
>> our values," Sen. said at the sendoff ceremony before the tugs began 
>> their work.
>>
>> Two former mayors, Edward Koch and David Dinkins, cast off the final 
>> mooring lines at the order of 80-year-old retired Rear Adm. J. Lloyd 
>> "Doc" Abbot Jr., who served two years as Intrepid's skipper in 1960-62 
>> and has been named honorary commander for the day.
>>
>> "It was the best job I ever had," Abbot said, standing once again on the 
>> ship's deck. "Intrepid had a soul of her own. How can a hunk of iron 
>> have a soul, you may ask. But I loved her. She kept me safe and at times 
>> I kept her safe."
>>
>> The Intrepid serves as a living memorial to the arms services, a tourist 
>> attraction that draws hundreds of thousands people a year and, if the 
>> need arises, will become as an emergency operation center for city and 
>> federal authorities. The FBI used it as an operation center after the 
>> Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
>>
>>
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