[Rhodes22-list] peel away - Thank you Bob M...

Wed Nov 15 19:04:00 EST 2006

hank..
thanks, guess i'll try the lowes stuff i have.. 

ed
least i gave a hint.. dumond.. 
thanks for the input to hank.  i'm in the same boat (so to speak) i'll be
doing more reading bout sealing and bottomcoat..    (i already have casey
and have been doing a lot of epoxy work)  and the interior seal link .... 
my whole cabin hull is accessable on the inside now, might be worthwhile.

bob m

Tootle wrote:
> 
> Bob and Hank,
> 
>      Thanks for the discussion of peel away.  For future thought you might
> include the web site when posting such discussions. 
> http://www.dumondchemicals.com/html/products.htm
> 
> Hank,
>             
>         I still say get a tarp and cover the boat.  Dry the boat out from
> the inside and outside before applying any sealer prior to bottom paint. 
> Again, read Don Casey's book:  Sailboat Hull & Deck Repair,  and moisture
> damage.  
> The autority on the subject is Allan H. Vaiteses, 'The Fiberglass Boat
> Repair Manual'.
>          I would also coat any accessible inside fiberglass with a modern
> epoxy sealer.  They did not have this stuff when they built the boat. 
> See:  http://www.bluewatermarinepaint.com/  and go to marine bottom repair
> and read the two products.  The sealer is different from the high build
> primer.
> 
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> addendum:  http://www.scmaritime.org/news.php?id=40
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hank-5 wrote:
>> 
>> We used the standard peel away from Home Depot, in the red bucket.  It
>> got
>> about 80% of the paint and didn't seem to touch the gelcoat.  Worked well
>> for us.
>> 
>> Hank
>> 
>> On 11/14/06, bobmellor <rhmello at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hank..
>>>
>>> what kind of peel away did you use?  I picked some peel away "6" up at
>>> lowes
>>> that had a graphic of a boat w/ bottom paint, said on the container said
>>> works on marine paint, safe for fiberglass.. but the manufacturer
>>> (dumond)
>>> web site does not mention either for "6".
>>>
>>> their web site shows "marine safety strip" for removing marine bottom
>>> paint,
>>> and marine saftey strip II for removing marine bottompaint without
>>> removing
>>> barrier coat or for gelcoat in poor shape (much more expensive product).
>>> I assume these 2 are also west marine's safety strip and safety strip
>>> pro.
>>>
>>> re leaks...
>>>
>>> ..I have an '80 pretty much gutted and am putting it back together...
>>> have
>>> been chasing leaks as well....  its sealed up well now.  The main
>>> culprits
>>> were clogged drain tubes and /leaky drain tube fittings as has been
>>> mentioned by several others.  its amazing how much water can be
>>> collected
>>> in
>>> the cockpit during a decent rain!  (also, if parked on the slope in
>>> front
>>> of
>>> my house it sits stern end up a bit collecting water at the forward end
>>> of
>>> the cockpit....  i was tipping it back to drain after a heavy rain and a
>>> bit
>>> too quickly found what Rik referred to... RAPID overflow into the
>>> lazarett
>>> hatch.  won't do that again.)  anything that allows the water to go into
>>> the
>>> hull as opposed to draining can easily put a LOT of rain water inside
>>> quickly.
>>>
>>> also if you watch rain water normally running off of the hull it tends
>>> to
>>> find paths to "stream"...  if one of those paths goes by a poorly seated
>>> side nav light or similar, it can also channel a good amount of water
>>> in..
>>> but probably not near as much as you are seeing.
>>>
>>> when down to the last few dribbles, i dusted some cornstarch baby powder
>>> around likely spots inside the cabin  which "recorded" the paths of any
>>> water dribbling in.
>>>
>>> good luck w/ the boat
>>>
>>> bob m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hank-5 wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Gang,
>>> >
>>> > Just wanted to give an update on what we are doing with the boat we
>>> bought
>>> > off of eBay back in September.  We got the IMF out this last weekend
>>> with
>>> > only one problem.  The PO had installed a cleat on the mast and the
>>> screws
>>> > protruded in and wouldn't let the IMF slide past.  The screws were
>>> frozen
>>> > to
>>> > the cleat and we ended up having to cut the cleat off with a sawzall.
>>> > After
>>> > that it was a breeze.  Both sails are in decent shape and we plan to
>>> send
>>> > them to Sailcare for cleaning and re-resining.  The Jib needs a new
>>> > sunbrella, but is a good North sail and it even has a foam luff pad.
>>> > Overall, the sails are in better condition than I had hoped.  We also
>>> > stripped the bottom paint off using peel away.  Came off pretty good
>>> and
>>> > the
>>> > bottom underneath looks in great shape.  In the spring we'll sand it
>>> down
>>> > good and apply a good barrier coat followed by the bottom paint.  All
>>> the
>>> > rigging looks in good shape so there is not really a whole lot to do
>>> to
>>> > get
>>> > it ready to sail.
>>> >
>>> > Are next big task for her is to get the cabin cleaned up and to figure
>>> out
>>> > where all the rain water is coming in from.  In about a month sitting
>>> on
>>> > Jack stands, she collected about 50 gallons of rain water (10 5 gal
>>> > buckets), so I am concerned about where it's coming in.  Apparently
>>> this
>>> > has
>>> > been going on for awhile as the flooring is shot from being water
>>> logged.
>>> > We'll need to pull it up and replace it.  Not sure what we will use
>>> for
>>> > the
>>> > new flooring, but suggestions are welcome.  The cabin also needs a
>>> good
>>> > cleaning up but that is mostly elbow grease.  The only electrical on
>>> it
>>> so
>>> > far is the nav lights.  I'll be thinking about what to do with that
>>> over
>>> > the
>>> > next few months.
>>> >
>>> > I'm still shooting for a mid spring splash and a lot of good sailing
>>> next
>>> > year.  Much of the work she needs can be done in the water, so we can
>>> > still
>>> > sail on good days and work on windless days.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Hank
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