[Rhodes22-list] evaluating the used boat

Philip 3drecon at comcast.net
Thu Oct 19 23:01:25 EDT 2006


We owned a jeep Cherokee about 17 years ago an it was a standard.  It had a
lower tow rating than its automatic model.  The dealer said there were too
many problems with the clutch and variances with the way people drive.  I
don't know if that's true, but that is what the jeep dealer said.

Philip


 -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of john Belanger
Sent:	Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:00 PM
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Subject:	Re: [Rhodes22-list] evaluating the used boat

chet
  i was surprised to learn in a discussion on car talk that automatic
transmissions are actually better for towing than manuals. send an email to
npr car talk. i'm sure they would be able to tell you why auto's better. and
if you tell them how much the boat and trailer weigh, tell you whether your
vehicle can safely handle the load. may want to look into an oil cooler if
you're going any distance. i don't own one yet but i've sailed a friends  84
r22 with 10-15 knot winds. nice ride. good luck.

Chet Orton <chet.orton at yahoo.com> wrote:
  John,

I've observed that vehicles which are available with either automatic or
standard transmission have higher rated towing capacities for the automatic.
Since the brakes and engine and such are the same, I've always assumed that
the difference was that when starting from a dead stop, a torque converter
slips more and acts like a lower gear. But a clutch slips more and just
heats up and wears out. So, I'm OK exceeding the manual transmission rating
a bit as long as I keep it within the automatic's rating, with the
understanding that it will impact my clutch.

Chet

----- Original Message ----
From: John Lock
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:54:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] evaluating the used boat


At 12:26 PM 10/19/2006 -0700, Chet Orton wrote:
>Thanks. I hadn't considered extra weight beyond the boat's
>displacement. My truck has a small 6 and the rated towing capacity
>is 3500 with a manual trans, 5000 with an automatic. I have a manual
>4WD. The hitch I installed is rated at 5000, so I don't think it
>will fail. It's not very hilly around here so I think it'll be
>alright, barely. I'll probably just need to replace the clutch
>sooner. I can drop it into 4WD Low for crawling up/down boat ramps.

The rated towing capacity is not just a measure of how much the
vehicle will pull. It also takes into account stopping power and
handling issues. If you exceed that rating you get into the "tail
wagging the dog" issue discussed here previously. You may also find
you have brake problems (overheating) if used heavily. Be careful!

Cheers!

John

"Catastrophe: a prize for the cat with the nicest buns."

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