[Rhodes22-list] Political:Off to Iraq
DCLewis1 at aol.com
DCLewis1 at aol.com
Thu Oct 26 15:02:15 EDT 2006
Brad,
To respond to your response: I have to plead ignorance regarding Murtha’s
ideas for redeploying. I’ve been largely out of touch for the past 2+ weeks
and I likely missed your post (and Murtha’s notion). I apologize. My initial
thought is that it’s a long way from Okinawa to the Middle East and I don’t
get the connection - except that it gets us out of Iraq.
Regarding the Clinton letter: I again say what you are trying is a huge
stretch not likely to be accepted by anyone on this board, or the electorate in
general. I recall, recognize and accept all the frustration Clinton and Bush
had with Saddam Hussein; but it’s one thing for Clinton to authorize an air
strike on Iraq and have an adversarial policy towards it, it’s quite another
thing for Bush to “pull the trigger”, to use your phrase in your post, and
authorize more than 3,000 air strikes and a ground invasion. The 2 different
responses are quantitatively and qualitatively hugely different. Trying to
tie the current Iraq morass back to Clinton is a losing gambit.
What were some pre-invasion alternatives?
Alternative 1: Skip it. It has always seemed patently obvious to me that if
the nations most affected by a rogue Iraq really didn’t give a damn that
there was no reason to pursue the matter. I think Mr Bush should have
identified this option in a nanosecond. Not going to war should always be Option A.
OR if he really thought there was reason for a pre-emptive war, he should
have directed every component of the Intelligence Community to sit down with
their foreign counterpart and cooperatively sort out the issues - note: I did
not say sell them on the US position, I said sort out the intelligence data
and input and reach a joint supportable conclusion with the real possibility
that his going in assessment was wrong. This is not Mon morning
quarterbacking, to me this is common sense. You want to count on and use your allies - so
use your allies intelligence services. Somewhere I’ve read we had 3
intelligence agents in Iraq prior to the invasion - clearly a limited capability -
the validity of our intelligence estimate prior to the invasion would seem to
support that limited capability. I’d bet Turkey had hundreds of agents
(given their Kurd problem). Turkey is a good ally, ask Turkey for their best
estimate and data. Get Turkey’s cooperation, or even better, cooperate with
Turkey (i.e. Turkish troops in the line of fire, not ours). Seems to me that if
the most affected nations, the nations at greatest risk, will not support
our operations, and worse publically and privately oppose it, a reasonable
approach would be to skip the whole thing - that’s Alternative 1.
Alternative 2: Get your allies on board up front. Going back to the intell
meetings I recommended above, it’s possible that allies might come on board.
But do that up front, before the invasion. Don’t have a Division of troops
afloat in the Med with nowhere to go when the invasion starts, your Generals
need to understand what assets they have and where they are. You need to
know who’s with you and who’s against you. Sort it out up front - that’s
Alternative 2.
Alternative 3: It has always seemed to me that if the most distinguished and
most competent military presence in the Cabinet, Collin Powell, said “Mr
President you really ought to think about this” the President should reasonably
and immediately bring the entire process to Full Stop until it was sorted
out and Secy Powell was completely satisfied. I understand that Secy Powell
ran the State Dept and that Secy Rumsfeld ran the Defense Dept, but Secy Powell
is also Gen Powell and he knows a helluva lot more about running a war, a
campaign, the uniformed DoD, etc, than Mr Rumsfeld. What happened is just
inexcusable. I think Secy Powell understood the lack of post invasion
planning. I also think Rumsfeld, in the best MBA tradition, nickle & dimed the
uniformed military at every turn so that the result was the minimum force needed
to effect the invasion, as opposed to the maximum force needed to win the war
(this includes post-invasion). Alternative 3 was to stop the process until
competent authority (Collin Powell) felt we had it right based on his unique
knowledge and experience in the Cabinet.
Personally, I have always felt the case for pre-emptive war with Iraq was
weak. We all know that in retrospect, many of us knew that prospectively. The
basis for my conclusion is that Iraq was never presumed to have delivery
systems (MRBMs, ICBMs) with the accuracy to be a threat to anyone but Israel -
and I’m positive Israel can, and will, take care of itself. You can hide WMD
development so that it’s tough to track (ask Philip), but you can’t hide the
development of delivery systems - the systems have to be tested on ranges, and
we can track those tests. No one has ever claimed Iraq had adequate
delivery systems to put the US at risk. My point here is not to claim
self-righteous brilliance, my point only claims common sense.
>From a political perspective many of us were opposed to the Iraq war from
the start, but I think the majority of the electorate decided to trust the
President’s judgement - and now, not surprisingly, they feel let down. The
electorates disenchantment with Bush’s judgement is the political heat you see in
the newspaper everyday. The 3 alternatives above were clearly available to
the President and he chose not to use them. He rushed to judgement when he
should have been a lot more skeptical, and a lot better prepared.
Again, I don’t think what I’ve outlined above is Mon morning
quarterbacking, I think the alternatives outlined above are just common sense, they amount
to due diligence.
Just my opinion.
Dave
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