[Rhodes22-list] Grammar

[L. Sailor]

Bill,
  "Between" is a preposition, and takes an object. Any object is (logically) in the objective case. "I" is a nominative case (subject) pronoun; "me" is a objective case pronoun.
   
  Just as one cannot use 'me' as a subject, one cannot use 'I' as an object. So, 'Between you & me' is correct; 'between you & I' is out.
   
  (But I'll bet you already knew that...) 
   
  ;^)
   
  elle

Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
  Elle,

Why is it between you and me?

Bill Effros

L. Sailor wrote:
> Joe, 
> 
> I think it is the "Pygmalion" syndrome...an affectation by someone who aspires to be 'highbrow' but doesn't know what he needs to know to carry it off...case in point: 
> How many times have you heard "Between you & I"....it should be "Between you & ME"...but we were told not to use 'ME' because most kids grow up saying "Me & my friend" or some other such construction....And most folks wouldn't know the diff between the two...so I guess it's a case of "It ain't right, but you know what I mean.."
> 
> >People ride IN an aplane, but we say "I took a ride ON a plane" 
> 
> That's an interesting example.....we do ride IN a car.....but ON a bus, ON a train." Perhaps the "IN" connotes an ownership condition, while the "ON" connotes an impersonal relationship.....
> 
> Also, we 'drive' on a parkway, and 'park' in a driveway, 'ship' 'cargo' by boat....
> 
> (aargh)
> 
> (slow day at the marina..)
> 
> elle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> Hi elle
>
> I'll add my frustrations to your last post ... the phrase
> that gets me now is "bla bla in length", or "the thingy is
> blue in color". Many many moons ago I attended a technical
> writing course, and was taught you don't insert the "in"
> word. I was taught something was 8 inches long, 12 feet
> wide, and 22 stories high (tall), and the building was
> blue. Why do we need to add the word "in"? 
>
> People ride IN an aplane, but we say "I took a ride ON a
> plane" (in this example at least the French say it
> correctly). Are we as a nation attemting to compensate for
> our past discrination of the word "in" in favor of "on"? 
> Did the rules change, and I not get the memo?
>
>
>
>
> HADZ (a.k.a. joe)
>
> If I'm so "crazy," then why did they choose me to be their
> spokesperson to the people of Earth?
>
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