[Rhodes22-list] Ernesto does a number on hatch cover

Rory Orkin roryorkin at earthlink.net
Tue Sep 5 09:17:29 EDT 2006 

During Isabell when there was major flooding here.. That is what happined to
boats that had been pulled and blocked at marinas. 


R22MikeW wrote:
> 
> When preparing for a major storm or hurricane, the safest place for the
> R22
> may indeed be on the trailer.  Please do not forget to SECURE THE BOAT to
> the trailer and the trailer to something.  Flooding and winds can remove
> the
> boat from the trailer or cause the trailer to roll or float away,
> especially
> if the boat is tied to it.  The most important thing to remember is that
> you
> cannot rely on gravity to secure items.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rory Orkin" <roryorkin at earthlink.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ernesto does a number on hatch cover
> 
> 
>>
>>  As I said in an earlier post, I did not notice a tie down cleat for the
> pop
>> top.. I will check again when it stops raining. I thought the pop top
> locked
>> in the down position.
>> As far as a storm surge is concerned.. I would pull the boat out and put
> it
>> on the trailer if I had any advance notice
>> Isabelle did a job on us here too and most of the docks here were blown
>> apart by storm surge so I would need to get it off of the lift.
>> Nothing about this storm required that degree of preperation. If the pop
> top
>> had been secured.. Nothing would have been damaged.
>> We have winds of 35 -45 mph constantly. I would spend my life rigging the
>> boat. I would never attempt to keep a boat on a lift if it were in
>> danger of floating off.  Trying to secure it would result in the bottom
>> of
>> the hull slamming against the bunks as the waves ran through.
>>
>>
>> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
>> >
>> > Rory, right before Hurricane Isabel hit in Sept 2003, someone posted a
> URL
>> > (if I remember correctly... or possibly copied it into the email) on
>> how
>> > to
>> > prepare a boat for a hurricane... it is worth revisiting.  It helped me
> a
>> > lot in my preparation for Isabel... Previously I had been on a Moorings
>> > charter while sailing around Grenada when a tropical storm was
> predicted;
>> > so
>> > I had already been through the drill... you might want to check it
> out...
>> > the most notable thing I noticed when I saw your posted picture was
>> that
>> > your boat was not well-prepared... the boom should have been removed;
> the
>> > mast lowered; all "loose" items from topside removed or well-tied down.
>> >
>> > My Rhodes is much older than yours and was refurbished much earlier.  I
>> > have
>> > a different setup apparently for my poptop... it is locked into the
>> > lifting
>> > bars so I can't see how it could be pulled up by the wind (at least
>> > without
>> > pulling out the lift bars themselves)... however had your mast been
>> down
>> > it
>> > seems it would have prevented the poptop from being lifted up.
>> >
>> > My Rhodes went through Isabel (which was on a much bigger scale) with
>> no
>> > damage at all.  Nor did I have any damage during Ernesto which hit
> pretty
>> > hard here in Hampton Roads (although nothing like Isabel).
>> >
>> > In the Granada situation, we were on a boat in which the mast couldn't
> be
>> > lowered (a much larger boat); however all lines were removed where
>> > possible
>> > and well-secured; the sails removed; the boom detached from the topping
>> > lift
>> > and very well secured.
>> >
>> > Question: have you thought through what would happen if a storm surge
>> > "floated" your boat off the boat lift? Again, in Isabel, boats that
>> were
>> > too
>> > tightly tied down actually lifted the pilings out causing a lot of
> damage
>> > to
>> > the docks and other boats as the boats in question were pushed into the
>> > others.  I don't know anything about boat lifts, but the thought
> occurred
>> > to
>> > me.
>> >
>> > The only thing one knows for sure about storms is that they are
>> > unpredictable... neither Ernesto or Isabel, for that matter, were
> expected
>> > to be as severe as they turned out to be in this area.  Its always a
> crap
>> > shoot... I've spent a lot of time preparing for storms that totally
> passed
>> > us by too.
>> >
>> > Saroj
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Rory Orkin" <roryorkin at earthlink.net>
>> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ernesto does a number on hatch cover
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Got it.. Guess you are right..
>> >> I did not notice the cleat on the step .. Perhaps it is there..
>> >> What I found it that the white piece of plastic that engages the lock
> was
>> >> actually broken in two.. I don't know if this happined first as a
> result
>> >> of
>> >> the wind , then the pop top was lifted when the wind could get into
>> the
>> >> cabin or if it fractured as a result of the beating the entire pop top
>> >> assembly took.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gregg J. MacMillan-2 wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Doesn't look like the jpg went thru.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's a link to it...
>> >>>
>> >>> http://macgra.com/poptop.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>>>Rory--
>> >>>>
>> >>>>At first I thought you were probably missing two holes. My 1986 has
>> >>>>two holes to lock the pop top in the down position. Apparently, at
>> >>>>some point Stan must have decided to eliminate those two holes.
>> >>>>Attached is a description from the newer owners manual how he
>> >>>>suggests locking the pop top on the newer models. I suspect when
>> >>>>yours was reconditioned, you got the new hardware.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--Gregg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>At 3:45 PM -0700 9/4/06, Rory Orkin wrote:
>> >>>>>What I discovered however is that it seems that there is no way for
>> that
>> >> pop
>> >>>>>top to be held down..
>> >>>>>Isn't there supposed to be a hole in the inner pop top support that
>> >>>>>locks
>> >>>>>the pop top when closed.
>> >>>>>This is a recon 2000 boat just purchased this year.. The only holes
>> I
>> >> have
>> >>>>>are for locking in up position.. Is this a mfg flaw ??
>> >>>>>I never realized it but as this is set up now , one could simply
>> lift
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>entire pop top up.. No lock other than on the sliding part.. which
> only
>> >>>>>locks the sliding part. What am I missing ??
>> >>>>>                                    Rory
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