[Rhodes22-list] Shocking Truth - Reply to well educated slim(political)

[Brad Haslett]

Would someone, anyone, please explain to me how a President or political
party could get all major oil companies and refiners to lower their prices
temporarily to influence politics. Do the foreign owned companies who sell
in the United States, LukeOil from Russia for example, work in lockstep with
the Republican party?

Don't you think that at least one company or refinery wouldn't play along?
If Bush had the power to change crude prices, wouldn't it have made sense to
have done so when he was still in the oil business instead of having to sell
out because oil dropped to $11 per barrel?

This is silly!

Brad






On 9/13/06, DCLewis1 at aol.com <DCLewis1 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wally,
>
> Re Ed's statements related to liberals=>socialism=>communism,
> you're  right,
> it's Ed.  There are elements of liberalism that do map to socialism  and
> communism, and elements of socialism that map to communism, but the
> mapping  is by
> no means complete or direct.  For example, there is no dictatorship  of
> the
> proletariat in socialism or liberalism.   To map  Ed's logic to another
> political system, there are elements of democracy  (the concept of tyranny
> of the
> majority) that map to tyranny, so if you are for  democracy your for
> tyranny,
> right?  I don't think so.
>
> Re Ed's comment "Understand that non government controls does not allow
> unjust enrichment through price fixing and monopolies."
> This is patently  wrong, the government files multiple price fixing
> complaints and suits against  businesses each year.  The single biggest
> deterrent to
> price fixing is the  knowledge that the businessmen involved will find
> their
> butts in the pokey -  it's got nothing to do with the free market.  Trust
> me, if
> they can rig the  market, they will.  It's only Sept, there are still 3
> months
> left in 2006,  do a Google search using "price fixing 2006", see the list,
> count the pages of  price fixing cases.
>
> Re Ed's comment "It merely means that the highest bidder gets the gallon
> of
> gas." what he forgot to mention was that the seller could also just
> withhold
> selling the gallon to even the highest bidder - which means he'll get
> whatever  price he sets or he won't sell.  If the commodity is
> non-discretionary (and
> gas is largely a non-discretionary commodity for most people) the seller
> will  get whatever price he wants - OPEC has figured this
> out.  Pharmaceutical
> companies with patented drugs have figure it out also.
>
> I expect to see gas prices rise after the elections.  It will be a
> coincidence, of course.  Alternatively, prices may stay low, but if  they
> do it will be
> because conventional oil suppliers are concerned that  alternatives (e.g.
> ethanol and tar sands) can be brought online to  displace demand.  Either
> way,
> the price is not controlled by the  highest bidder, it's a business
> decision
> made by the supplier who understands  the bidder has to buy at whatever
> price he
> sets short of the price that will  make other alternative energy sources
> viable.
>
> Dave
>
>
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