[Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22

Mon Sep 18 08:49:59 EDT 2006

Erly,

I have no experience with the Com-Pac, but I refuse to believe you can 
find a better boat.  You can trailer, launch, and take down single 
handed.  It's a comfortable size for single handing, but the cockpit 
(and cabin room with the pop top up) make it a comfortable sail for as 
many as six adults.  I think most of us leave it rigged and tied up 
somewhere during the bulk of our primary sailing seasons.  Without sails 
to raise or rigging to do, you can drive out for a sail after work and 
be on the water a few minutes after you park.

I pulled my boat from Louisiana to North Carolina using a little 
car-based SUV rated at 3500 lbs.  I had no problems at all -- well, a 
flat tire, but no problems related to the trailering.  I didn't have to 
cross any serious hills, but I think you could consider sticking with 
your current van.

The other list members will forgive me for rehashing this, but I can 
confirm first hand that the Rhodes 22 is indeed unsinkable.  I had mine 
tied up right in the path where it took the western eye wall of 
Hurricane Katrina.  Dozens and dozens of boats in that area were sunk, 
wrecked, or lost altogether.  We took a lot of damage (I had enough line 
out for the water to rise 15 feet, but it came up around 22 ft., so it 
must have been almost completely underwater.  And the wind took away 
about all of my standing rigging and the two forward hatches to boot.)  
But I took it back to the factory, and just got it back like new a few 
weeks ago.

Which brings me to the main separator:  you won't have a bad buying 
experience from General Boats.  When mine was first delivered several 
years ago, Elton stuck around for two days adjusting this and that to 
make sure everything was just right.  I can't remember what all took so 
long, but one example was that he moved the head a couple inches, so the 
user could have a little more room for his knees.  And how many Com-Pac 
sailors can pick up the phone and talk to the CEO?  Not only does he 
take calls at the factory, he has on occasion provided his home phone 
number to his clients and prospects who might have questions after 
hours.  I promise that you haven't dealt with a vendor of any sort that 
truly cares for their customers better.

Ben
R22 Velvet Elvis
Baton Rouge, LA

Rik Sandberg wrote:
> Brad and Erly,
>
> Trucking company *executive* ...... ha ha ha, I like that!!
>
> Yep, I did tow our Rhodes with an S-10. But, it was the HD 4x4 version 
> with a V-6 and was rated for something like 5500 lbs IIRC. It did a 
> fine job. Being a "trucking company executive" though, I may have more 
> realistic expectations about pulling a load than most people. For 
> instance, I don't expect to pull a load up a small mountain without 
> downshifting, as many folks I talk to do. That being said, we towed 
> our R-22 to Kentucky Lake, 875 miles one way, from Minnesota, twice 
> and never had a problem. I will say that the R-22 was probably at the 
> upper limit of this trucks capabilities though. I think the most 
> important consideration in this whole deal is trailer brakes. Stopping 
> is the biggest problem ..... not going, assuming of course, you've got 
> your boat loaded properly on the trailer.
>
> I haven't read this whole thread and haven't seen how far Erly plans 
> to tow. If it's more than just a few miles, I think he surely needs a 
> bigger car/truck than he has now. A 1/2 ton pickup is a real nice 
> match for an R-22, but I think the Tahoes, Denalis and other suvs do 
> fine if you need more passenger room than a pickup has to offer.
>
> Happy towing
> Rik
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> Erly,
>>
>> Hold your horses!  Rik, you listening?  We have an expert trucking 
>> company
>> executive on the list who pulled a R-22 with an S10 Chevy pickup.  
>> Don't get
>> into to big a hurry to upgrade.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/06, Erly Garner <erlyg at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> My auto manual says absolutely 3500 lb. tow limit....Doesn't sound too
>>> good.
>>> Maybe it's time I thought about getting a new car.
>>>
>>> Erly
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>>
>>>
>>> > Erly, What's the van rated for? Our Chev Blazer is rated to tow  
>>> 5,000
>>> > lbs. It does ok hauling the Rhodes but we only tow it a couple of 
>>> times
>>> a
>>> > year. It we were to tow long distances more often and if we had a 
>>> lot of
>>> > hills we might look for something a little beefier. The Rhodes 
>>> does tow
>>> > well but it's fairly heavy for its size (all those amenities weigh
>>> > something). Because of the 9 stays it takes a bit longer to set up 
>>> than
>>> a
>>> > boat with fewer. On the plus side is the IMF which allows you to 
>>> raise
>>> > mast, sails and boom all at once. Of course that bundle is heavier 
>>> than
>>> > the individual pieces so a mast raising system like the once GB sells
>>> > comes in very handy.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Mary Lou
>>> > 1991 R22   Fretless
>>> > Swan Creek (Rock Hall, MD)
>>> >
>>> > At 08:31 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote:
>>> >>I'm probably about 5 hrs or so from Edenton and am planning a trip 
>>> for a
>>> >>check-out sail.  I haven't heard any comments about towing with my
>>> Toyota.
>>> >>I assume most are towed with an suv or resonably sized truck.
>>> >>
>>> >>Erly
>>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>>> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:17 PM
>>> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>See, I said there is a negative for every positive and visa versa 
>>> (i.e.
>>> >>>the
>>> >>>boring list).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> >>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad 
>>> Haslett
>>> >>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:05 PM
>>> >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Philip,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>No, S2 (Tiara) is another great choice.  They made a 22' foot 
>>> boat that
>>> >>>kicked ass on the racing circuit. Their gelcoat quality is 
>>> legendary.
>>> The
>>> >>>9.2 S2 center cockpit (my boat) gives the most room of any 30 footer
>>> ever
>>> >>>built at the expense of being ugly.  Leon Slicker, (S2 builder) is a
>>> >>>'Stanish" kind of guy but on a larger scale (boat numbers wise).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>But....they have the dullest e-mail list in the history of 
>>> sailboats.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>'Bigger is better' is only a state of mind.  There are so many days
>>> that
>>> >>>I
>>> >>>long for the smaller boat.  If you want a 22 footer, the search is
>>> over.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Brad
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>On 9/17/06, Philip <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>One of the negatives is, it would be nice if it were 26 feet, 
>>> but then
>>> >>>>it
>>> >>>>wouldn't be as easily "trailerable".  It would be nice if the 
>>> company
>>> >>>>were
>>> >>>a
>>> >>>>great world wide corporation, but then you wouldn't get the 
>>> personal
>>> >>>>attention from the owner (Stan).  I can't think of anymore 
>>> negatives.
>>> >>>>But
>>> >>>>with each negative, there is a positive.  This is one outstanding
>>> boat.
>>> >>>The
>>> >>>>only reason to buy something else is size.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Philip
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
>>> >>>> >> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Erly Garner
>>> >>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:40 PM
>>> >>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Ed K
>>> >>>>I'm located close to Hickory, NC.  Presently, I'm sold on the 
>>> Rhodes
>>> but
>>> >>>>want to be informed of both sides of the coin before making an
>>> >>>>investment.
>>> >>>>I'm relatively certain that my present vehicle can't tow a 
>>> Rhodes (93
>>> >>>>Toyota
>>> >>>>Previa Van) but have reserved hopes.  There are bound to be some
>>> >>>>negative
>>> >>>>sides to a Rhodes, I just can't seem to find any.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Erly
>>> >>>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>> >>>>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:45 PM
>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Erly:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>      You came to the wrong house to find con's to Rhodes 22.  When
>>> >>>>comparing with the Com-Pac line you have to go to the CP 25 to
>>> >>>>compare.  And
>>> >>>>then you do not have the type trailerability of the Rhodes 22.  
>>> As the
>>> >>>>owner
>>> >>>>of Com Pac told me, yes you can trail a 25, at the beginning of the
>>> >>>>season
>>> >>>>and at the end of the season.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>       If you want to trail without a big truck there just is not
>>> >>>> currently
>>> >>>>another design that works like the Rhodes 22, tis fact.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>       One person can rig, launch, retrieve and unrig a Rhodes 
>>> 22, it
>>> is
>>> >>>>done all the time by members of this list.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>       Where are you located?  Have you seen a Rhodes 22?  Look at
>>> this
>>> >>>> web
>>> >>>>site:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Ed K
>>> >>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Erly Garner wrote:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Hi:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I've done limited sailing with my brother on his Compac 19.  I'm
>>> just
>>> >>>>now
>>> >>>> > getting serious about getting my own boat and my research
>>> >>>> indicates > that
>>> >>>> > the Rhodes 22 seems to be a real dream boat.  I've got to have
>>> >>>> an > easily
>>> >>>> > trailerable craft (definite MUST), mostly plan on lake sailing,
>>> >>>>girlfriend
>>> >>>> > insists on enclosed head, a few lake side overnights on 
>>> weekends,
>>> and
>>> >>>>want
>>> >>>> > to do limited salt water upon retiring.  Big brother say 
>>> there is
>>> no
>>> >>>>other
>>> >>>> > boat but the Compac.  What are the down sides and 
>>> disadvantages of
>>> a
>>> >>>> > Rhodes?  How trailerable is it (smallest vehicle to pull)?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Thanks,
>>> >>>> > Erly
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