[Rhodes22-list] boating and dealing with human excrement.. was:
Erly and towing the Rhodes 22
3drecon at comcast.net
3drecon at comcast.net
Tue Sep 19 13:49:34 EDT 2006
Saroj,
Thanks. I had not cleaned one of these before. I will follow your directions and hopefully have a happy outcome. I am not unused to cleaning this type of thing. A stint in the USMC and years in the Army is good training for it and though I have achieved a rank where you wouldn't expect me to do that, believe it or not, rank has very few privilages these days.
Stan actually told me to throw it out if I didn't want to fool with it, but I hate throwing away things that are not broken. I'll have to see how ambitious I am this week-end.
When I was researching boats, I found composting toilets on-line for marine applications. I don't remember where I saw them but you can do a search or if I run across it again I'll post it.
Philip
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From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> Philip... why don't you just take out the portapotty (very carefully!),.. place
> it in a large contractors heavy guage plastic bag, seal it well and then replace
> it when you return the boat to Stan. Or better still ask Stan if you can simply
> throw it out... I can't believe he would want it back to have to be cleaned
> before passing it onto someone else! Cleaning a porta potty... especially
> someone else's is one of the most disgusting tasks I can think of.
>
> However if you are set on cleaning it, here's how:
> a.. put on a gas mask
> b.. remove it from its clamps
> c.. set the bar so the waste compartment is sealed
> d.. separate the top (that holds the fresh water for flushing) from the bottom
> (the waste tank)
> e.. empty the waste tank down a toilet or dumping station
> f.. pour bleach and water into the waste tank and brush it out same as you
> would clean a household toilet
> g.. empty, rinse, empty rinse, redo the bleach/water routine, empty, rinse,
> empty rinse a few more times
> h.. spray the top part with Clorox cleanup or some equivalent and hose it down
> a few times...
> Then put the whole thing back together; put it in a heavy bag per above, store
> it until you return the boat to Stan. :o)
>
> Then, if you are feeling especially generous, reinstall it as it was...
>
> I frankly can't deal with porta potties... even if they are contaminated only
> with my DNA! In fact it is rare that I've been on a boat with a holding tank
> that didn't have a vestige of sewage odor in it somewhere... and, frankly, if I
> owned a boat with a holding tank, I wouldn't allow any paper to be put in it
> anyway... which means having a plastic bag in the head for the paper... more
> yuck... and more smell!
>
> I prefer a hand-held urinal and a 5-gallon bucket with a toilet seat and plastic
> bag... nothing to clean other than the toilet seat from time to time.. a quick
> wipe! The urinal gets dumped over the side and rinsed...
>
> A well-designed composting toilet is the only thing that makes sense to me on a
> boat (other than hanging one's rear-end over the side), but I've never heard of
> one being made for marine usage.
>
> Saroj
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Haslett"
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Erly and towing the Rhodes 22
>
>
> > Philip,
> >
> > Read the whole thread on my shrimpmobile and follow every suggestion. It
> > won't remove the smell from your porti-potti, but, it will change it to
> > something you don't recognize. I'm thinking about volunteering to be a
> > designated driver at sleazy bars just to add the aroma of puked tequila to
> > the mix. Can't be any worse than dead shrimp!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > On 9/18/06, 3drecon at comcast.net <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> That's true, about the head. There is a curtain between the pottie and
> >> the V berth, I think. There is a swing arm, perhaps for a curtain? My
> >> loaner is a 1989 and it has a stinky porta-potty. I think GBI took it in
> >> with the previous owner's DNA still in it. I haven't figured out how to
> >> clean it yet so I leave the cabin open as much as I can!
> >> In all fairness to Stan, he offered to install a real head if I had
> >> the time to stay in Edenton, but I didn't, so. . . since it is a loaner.
> >>
> >> Philip
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message --------------
> >> From: Tootle
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Erly:
> >> >
> >> > Here is a way to get some specific towing information:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/topics.html#T
> >> >
> >> > And another way:
> >> >
> >> > http://search.ask.com/web?q=towing+site%3Arhodes22.org+&qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir
> >> >
> >> > Please note that the above method of searching past discussions of a
> >> topic
> >> > on this forum works for other topics.
> >> >
> >> > Some additional comments: Captain Rummy is an easy drive and can
> >> > show you the limits of an older model Rhodes 22 ('88). He does not come
> >> > free. You need to lubricate the session with a bottle of Mt. Gay rum.
> >> >
> >> > As to tow vehicles go to Mary Lou's post
> >> > (
> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2006-September/034114.html
> >> )
> >> > and read how far will you tow? 50 miles is one thing and 500 is quite
> >> > another. I started towing with a short bed van with V 8 engine, because
> >> I
> >> > had one. Others tow with a 6 and a few even with a 4.
> >> >
> >> > Keep in mind older Rhodes 22's did not come with the enclosed
> >> > head, that is a recent innovation and modification.
> >> >
> >> > Again, welcome to the Rhodes List.
> >> >
> >> > Ed K
> >> > Greenville, SC, USA
> >> > http://familyoutdoors.com/pages/bigwater.htm
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ed K
> >> > Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >
> >> > Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Erly,
> >> > >
> >> > > Hold your horses! Rik, you listening? We have an expert trucking
> >> company
> >> > > executive on the list who pulled a R-22 with an S10 Chevy pickup.
> >> Don't
> >> > > get
> >> > > into to big a hurry to upgrade.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brad
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 9/17/06, Erly Garner wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My auto manual says absolutely 3500 lb. tow limit....Doesn't sound
> >> too
> >> > >> good.
> >> > >> Maybe it's time I thought about getting a new car.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Erly
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Mary Lou Troy"
> >> > >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:47 PM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Erly, What's the van rated for? Our Chev Blazer is rated to tow
> >> 5,000
> >> > >> > lbs. It does ok hauling the Rhodes but we only tow it a couple of
> >> times
> >> > >> a
> >> > >> > year. It we were to tow long distances more often and if we had a
> >> lot
> >> > >> of
> >> > >> > hills we might look for something a little beefier. The Rhodes does
> >> tow
> >> > >> > well but it's fairly heavy for its size (all those amenities weigh
> >> > >> > something). Because of the 9 stays it takes a bit longer to set up
> >> than
> >> > >> a
> >> > >> > boat with fewer. On the plus side is the IMF which allows you to
> >> raise
> >> > >> > mast, sails and boom all at once. Of course that bundle is heavier
> >> than
> >> > >> > the individual pieces so a mast raising system like the once GB
> >> sells
> >> > >> > comes in very handy.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Best,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Mary Lou
> >> > >> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> >> > >> > Swan Creek (Rock Hall, MD)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > At 08:31 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote:
> >> > >> >>I'm probably about 5 hrs or so from Edenton and am planning a trip
> >> for
> >> > >> a
> >> > >> >>check-out sail. I haven't heard any comments about towing with my
> >> > >> Toyota.
> >> > >> >>I assume most are towed with an suv or resonably sized truck.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>Erly
> >> > >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
> >> > >> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >> > >> >>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:17 PM
> >> > >> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>>See, I said there is a negative for every positive and visa versa
> >> > >> (i.e.
> >> > >> >>>the
> >> > >> >>>boring list).
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > >> >>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> >> Haslett
> >> > >> >>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:05 PM
> >> > >> >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > >> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>Philip,
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>No, S2 (Tiara) is another great choice. They made a 22' foot boat
> >> > >> that
> >> > >> >>>kicked ass on the racing circuit. Their gelcoat quality is
> >> legendary.
> >> > >> The
> >> > >> >>>9.2 S2 center cockpit (my boat) gives the most room of any 30
> >> footer
> >> > >> ever
> >> > >> >>>built at the expense of being ugly. Leon Slicker, (S2 builder) is
> >> a
> >> > >> >>>'Stanish" kind of guy but on a larger scale (boat numbers wise).
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>But....they have the dullest e-mail list in the history of
> >> sailboats.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>'Bigger is better' is only a state of mind. There are so many days
> >> > >> that
> >> > >> >>>I
> >> > >> >>>long for the smaller boat. If you want a 22 footer, the search is
> >> > >> over.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>Brad
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>On 9/17/06, Philip <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>One of the negatives is, it would be nice if it were 26 feet, but
> >> > >> then
> >> > >> >>>>it
> >> > >> >>>>wouldn't be as easily "trailerable". It would be nice if the
> >> company
> >> > >> >>>>were
> >> > >> >>>a
> >> > >> >>>>great world wide corporation, but then you wouldn't get the
> >> personal
> >> > >> >>>>attention from the owner (Stan). I can't think of anymore
> >> negatives.
> >> > >> >>>>But
> >> > >> >>>>with each negative, there is a positive. This is one outstanding
> >> > >> boat.
> >> > >> >>>The
> >> > >> >>>>only reason to buy something else is size.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>Philip
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:
> >> > >> >>>> >> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Erly Garner
> >> > >> >>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:40 PM
> >> > >> >>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > >> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>Ed K
> >> > >> >>>>I'm located close to Hickory, NC. Presently, I'm sold on the
> >> Rhodes
> >> > >> but
> >> > >> >>>>want to be informed of both sides of the coin before making an
> >> > >> >>>>investment.
> >> > >> >>>>I'm relatively certain that my present vehicle can't tow a Rhodes
> >> (93
> >> > >> >>>>Toyota
> >> > >> >>>>Previa Van) but have reserved hopes. There are bound to be some
> >> > >> >>>>negative
> >> > >> >>>>sides to a Rhodes, I just can't seem to find any.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>Erly
> >> > >> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> >>>>From: "Tootle"
> >> > >> >>>>To:
> >> > >> >>>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:45 PM
> >> > >> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cons of rhodes 22
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>Erly:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> You came to the wrong house to find con's to Rhodes 22. When
> >> > >> >>>>comparing with the Com-Pac line you have to go to the CP 25 to
> >> > >> >>>>compare. And
> >> > >> >>>>then you do not have the type trailerability of the Rhodes 22. As
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> >>>>owner
> >> > >> >>>>of Com Pac told me, yes you can trail a 25, at the beginning of
> >> the
> >> > >> >>>>season
> >> > >> >>>>and at the end of the season.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> If you want to trail without a big truck there just is not
> >> > >> >>>> currently
> >> > >> >>>>another design that works like the Rhodes 22, tis fact.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> One person can rig, launch, retrieve and unrig a Rhodes 22, it
> >> > >> is
> >> > >> >>>>done all the time by members of this list.
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>> Where are you located? Have you seen a Rhodes 22? Look at
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> >>>> web
> >> > >> >>>>site:
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>Ed K
> >> > >> >>>>Greenville, SC, USA
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>
> >> > >> >>>>Erly Garner wrote:
> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> > >> >>>> > Hi:
> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> > >> >>>> > I've done limited sailing with my brother on his Compac 19.
> >> I'm
> >> > >> just
> >> > >> >>>>now
> >> > >> >>>> > getting serious about getting my own boat and my research
> >> > >> >>>> indicates > that
> >> > >> >>>> > the Rhodes 22 seems to be a real dream boat. I've got to have
> >> > >> >>>> an > easily
> >> > >> >>>> > trailerable craft (definite MUST), mostly plan on lake
> >> sailing,
> >> > >> >>>>girlfriend
> >> > >> >>>> > insists on enclosed head, a few lake side overnights on
> >> weekends,
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> >>>>want
> >> > >> >>>> > to do limited salt water upon retiring. Big brother say there
> >> is
> >> > >> no
> >> > >> >>>>other
> >> > >> >>>> > boat but the Compac. What are the down sides and disadvantages
> >> of
> >> > >> a
> >> > >> >>>> > Rhodes? How trailerable is it (smallest vehicle to pull)?
> >> > >> >>>> >
> >> > >> >>>> > Thanks,
> >> > >> >>>> > Erly
> >> > >> >>>> > __________________________________________________
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