[Rhodes22-list] Roger

Slim salm at mn.rr.com
Thu Sep 21 16:22:32 EDT 2006


Wally,

OK, so what is it about his 150 that makes the boat point so well?  Is it
because he can have his whole sail out and still be inboard the shrouds,
whereas if I have 150 of my 175 out and likewise inboard, I have a big
sausage on my luff?  BTW, I had a luff pad installed this year and it makes
a huge difference. 

Slim

On 9/21/06 3:10 PM, "TN Rhodey" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Slim,
> 
> His 150 is why he can point. I flew that same sail on my boat for a couple
> of races and it was really nice. Some type of composite material. Loose foot
> isn't the problem with IMF, many race boats have loose foot main. The main
> difference is the ability to tension the luff, the expanded roach of main,
> and battens.
> 
> Wally
> 
> 
>> From: Slim <salm at mn.rr.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Roger
>> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:34:03 -0500
>> 
>> I'm among the few that have sailed on both standard and IMF boats.  My sail
>> with Roger the other day convinced me that his boat will outperform mine
>> any
>> day.  His is lighter, has less wetted surface friction because of a smaller
>> board, and especially the standard main.  Even with two reefs, his main
>> performs well.  I can reef in my IMF to have the same square footage but no
>> matter what, it¹s still loose-footed and I think that¹s where his really
>> has
>> the edge.  He also tacks through 80 degrees and mine through 90.  Again, I
>> assume this is attributed to the main.  When we get him out on Fandango
>> it¹ll be very interesting to see if he agrees--I'm sure he will.  He has a
>> 150% foresail and it's cut so that when it's all the way out, you can still
>> see under it.  My big 175 is more or less a "deck sweeper" and you can't
>> see
>> under it when it's full out.  Even on a broad reach with my bigger jib,
>> he'd
>> deploy his asymmetrical spinnaker and I'd be toast.
>> 
>> That said, I'm not a racer and I still prefer the IMF because of its
>> simplicity and convenience.  And I don't have a spinnaker nor would I want
>> all that fuss and extra rigging.
>> 
>> Slim
>> 
>> On 9/21/06 6:58 AM, "TN Rhodey" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Art,
>>> 
>>> Yep Roger was no fan of IMF. He builit a mast crane that estended off
>> top of
>>> mast and moved the back stays aft. This allowed him to have extra roach
>> main
>>> sail that I am sure generated some extra power. He also has a really
>> nice
>>> 150 (non dacron) that really holds shape even in little wind. His club
>> had
>>> his PFRF down to 243 and he still managed to win a few races.
>>> 
>>> As I said in earlier post I always enjoyed Roger's perspective. We
>> didn't
>>> always agree but I really respected his sailing knowledge.
>>> 
>>> I am glad he is helping you out.
>>> 
>>> Wally
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Roger
>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:26:48 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> 
>>>> Slim,
>>>> 
>>>> I have gotten three emails from Roger, and have responded to each.  He
>> has
>>>> been greatly helpful, and I really appreciate the sail you had with him
>> and
>>>> your own email to the list.  I have noticed that each of his emails
>> were
>>>> worked over by the SPAM bouncer, big brute - over 400#, but after I put
>> him
>>>> on my address list were not supposed to be 'screened' and held.  His
>>>> pictures were excellent and helped very much.  He is certainly not an
>> IMF
>>>> fan - as an engineer, I'm sure a sailing purist like my wife's dad.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, I asked Rummy about your next Greenville trip to visit your mother
>> -
>>>> is she now in Florida?  I think he said Naples area.  How does she like
>>>> IMF?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Art
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Slim <salm at mn.rr.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sep 20, 2006 1:36 PM
>>>>> To: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Roger
>>>>> 
>>>>> Art,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger got back to me and said he sent you some info but didn't hear
>> back.
>>>>> Maybe your spam-blocker stopped it.  He'd be glad to help you with
>>>>> installation, wiring, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Slim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/20/06 8:13 AM, "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>> Thanks for your reply.  I am contemplating one with the Seatalk
>> remote.
>>>>  I am
>>>>>> curious how you installed and how difficult on the wiring.
>>>>>> R,
>>>>>> Art
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Sep 18, 2006 3:52 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, The Rhodes
>>>> 22 mail
>>>>>>> list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Roger
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Art,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you looking specifically for Roger, or do you have autopilot
>>>> questions?
>>>>>>> I've valued the ST1000 over the rest of my crew in years past.
>>>> Anything I
>>>>>>> can help you with?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>> R22 Velvet Elvis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From:  "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> Subj:  Re: [Rhodes22-list] Roger
>>>>>>> Date:  Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:28
>>>>>>> Size:  1K
>>>>>>> To:  The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Slim,
>>>>>>> Do you know what autopilot he uses?  Do you have an email address
>> for
>>>> him, or
>>>>>>> ph # where I could reach him?
>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>> Art
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Slim <salm at mn.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sep 18, 2006 2:10 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Roger
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As some of you know, former Rhodes list member, Roger Pihlaja is
>> now
>>>> living
>>>>>>>> in the greater Twin Cities area and today I had the pleasure of
>>>> taking a
>>>>>>>> sail with him on the famous Dynamic Equilibrium!  Temps in the low
>>>> 70s and
>>>>>>>> winds 18 gusting to 25.  His is a '76 Continental with standard,
>>>>>>>> full-battened main and 150% headsail.  We sailed with two reefs in
>>>> the main
>>>>>>>> and varying 100% to 150% jib depending on point of sail.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dynamic Equilibrium is truly and engineer's boat--it's rigged to
>> the
>>>> teeth.
>>>>>>>> Two spinnakers, spinnaker pole and whisker pole mounted on the fore
>>>> deck,
>>>>>>>> auto-pilot, instruments, bimini, boom tent, everything! We sailed
>> for
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> couple of hours and had a very good time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note:  He has a much higher voice than I'd imagined.  I imagined he
>>>> had a
>>>>>>>> voice like Joe Friday on Dragnet.    8-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>> 
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