[Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.

Thu Apr 5 16:29:49 EDT 2007

Wally,

We have reached a point of agreement.  Hillary is a two-faced bitch!

Brad

On 4/5/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> I didn't have a question and I would never ask you to do my research. I
> used
> to read your links but quit years ago when I found they often didn't even
> support what you were saying. I guess if your sole point is/was Hilary is
> a
> two faced bitch and Clinton fired all 93 and other presidents fired 80 or
> so
> then you are correct. You are incorrect in stating that these firings were
> usually done at end of term. My point is Clinton did not start mass
> firings.
>
> One big difference now....Due to the Patriot Act Bush can replace these
> guys
> without approval. As for the lie? It is fact that the administration
> stated
> they were fired for poor performance and not for political reasons. That
> sir
> WAS a lie. What part of any of the above is not true?
>
> I still think they would have been much better off fessing up from the get
> go. Just like I felt Clinton would have been better off saying "I did have
> sex with that women....and others too". So as I have said in every post on
> this topic....this problem was more a matter of bad timing (half way
> through
> second term), and the BS response afterwards. Add an administration with a
> credibilty problem, toss in the Patriot Act loop-hole and things get a
> little sticky.
>
> Regarding my sources....What I got off CNN was copies of actual emails and
> PDFs of court transcript. They came up first but who cares? Regardless of
> what web site one uses for the source of court docs the actual text should
> be the same. I am not sure of your point in mentioning FOX verses CNN. Are
> you disputing that these are actual transcipts? Facts, facts, facts....not
> opinion.
>
> I agreed this should have been much ado about nothing and if fact said so.
> I
> am still not sure you realize this. For the most part this mess was
> created
> in the typical bumbling fashion we have come to expect from current
> administration.
>
> Wally
>
> >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:51:26 -0600
> >
> >Wally,
> >
> >Sorry, my ADHD is kicking in again.  Exactly what was your question?  I
> >believe it had something to do with "don't all incoming Presidents fire
> all
> >the Federal Attorneys?  And my answer was, No.  Only Bill Clinton did
> that
> >in mass.  All the others replaced them when their terms expired with
> >occasional mid term firings.  Use your skills on the DOJ website to
> confirm
> >that.  My only reason for mentioning the Clinton firings is to point out
> >Hillary's amnesia.  ALL Federal Attorney appointments are political so it
> >is
> >only reasonable to assume that their having been fired is also political
> to
> >whatever degree.  I am not wrong about the mass firings (in the last
> forty
> >years or so) and I refuse to do your homework. As to lying - could you be
> a
> >bit more specific?  Using the word "performance" as a smoke screen for
> >having not followed the POTUS's desires is not lying.  Not necessarily
> good
> >PR either, but not lying. Reading something on CNN is not fact.  You are
> >welcome to throw out FOX News.  There, we're even. The fact that you read
> >testimony and came up with an opinion is just that, your opinion. As I
> said
> >earlier this morning, investigate the living shit out of this by all
> means.
> >I seriously doubt they'll find a smoking gun, but if they do, smoke'm
> out.
> >The gist of the complaints the White House had against those fired was
> >their
> >pursuit (or lack of) of voter fraud and illegal immigration with one
> >exception -  the one from Little Rock was shit-canned to make way for
> >someone else as a political favor.  Welcome to the real world. If it
> turns
> >out that they were trying to cover for political corruption, take it all
> >the
> >way to impeachment.  Frankly, I think we're killing a lot of trees over
> >nothing. Gonzales may be rendered ineffective for a while or perhaps
> >permanently.  Wasn't that the reason behind this non-scandal from the
> >get-go?
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >On 4/5/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brad, And you say you don't have a pair of rose colored glasses....As
> > > usual
> > > you never answered my question. I freely admitted I hadn't been
> >following
> > > this closely. This is not a matter of seeing what you or I want to
> see.
> >So
> > > I
> > > did a quick check and the facts are simple....
> > >
> > > First you are wrong about mass AG firings starting will Clinton. A
> quick
> > > check does confirm that new Presidents have been firing AGs going back
> >to
> > > at
> > > least Reagan. It looks like Carter and good old Ike had some firings
> as
> > > well
> > > but nothing like the mass numbers since Reagan. Nixon had his own
> issues
> > > with AGs. Since Reagan it has been routine for 80 or more AGs to be
> > > dismissed with-in the first 2 years of President's term. Poor old
> > > Bill....people just love to blame him for everything. LOL
> > >
> > > The issue seems to be more a matter of timing, motivation, and the
> > > administration's BS response to the public. The reasons cited for
> > > dismissals
> > > was "poor performance". A quick review of the facts shows this was not
> > > true.
> > > Internal Emails and pdfs of recent testimony are all on line. It  is
> >also
> > > clear these firings were discussed with Gonzales prior to Gonzales
> > > becoming
> > > AG. It is also clear that the AG provided misleading information to
> the
> > > Senate. It is also clear the the administration wanted to fire the AG
> >over
> > > Libby trial.
> > >
> > > This might have been much ado about nothing if they didn't initially
> >fire
> > > the AGs and then follow up with annouincement that this was do to poor
> > > performance. Of course the fired AGs complained. Wouldn't you? Being
> >fired
> > > is bad enough but go ahead and tell the world the real reason not a
> lie.
> > > This administration has a history of providing bad information. Why
> our
> > > President's ratings aren't even lower is beyond me.
> > >
> > > Google is your friend. My sources.. Justive Department site, WIKI, and
> > > CNN.
> > > Note CNN and WIKI provided the link to actual emails and PDFs of
> > > testimony.
> > > I did not read any editorials....I want facts not opinions.
> > >
> > > No spin Brad. Kind of like Dragnet...nothing but the facts. If I have
> >the
> > > facts wrong set me straight.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:37:30 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Wally,
> > > >
> > > >You see what you want to see.  This is much to do about nothing!  Do
> >your
> > > >homework and prove me wrong.  The facts are what they are, your spin
> >sir.
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > >
> > > > > What?.....This editorial really doesn't address the coment in my
> > > > > email.....I
> > > > > will do some checking but I think you are wrong about this
> starting
> > > with
> > > > > Clinton. I don't think anyone is saying that Clinto did not fire
> >AGs.
> > > I
> > > > > just
> > > > > don't think it started with the Clinton's. You post doesn't shed
> any
> > > >light
> > > > > in either direction. - Wally
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:08:47 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This is a 'tempest in a teapot', something, anything, to run
> > > >interference
> > > > > >during the last two years of a lame duck Presidency.  Here is an
> > > > > editorial
> > > > > >from the WSJ on the subject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > >---------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >*The Hubbell Standard*
> > > > > >Hillary Clinton knows all about sacking U.S. Attorneys.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >*Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:01 a.m.*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Congressional Democrats are in full cry over the news this week
> >that
> > > >the
> > > > > >Administration's decision to fire eight U.S. Attorneys originated
> > > > > >from--gasp--the White House. Senator Hillary Clinton joined the
> fun
> > > > > >yesterday, blaming President Bush for "the politicization of our
> > > > > >prosecutorial system." Oh, my.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >As it happens, Mrs. Clinton is just the Senator to walk point on
> >this
> > > > > issue
> > > > > >of dismissing U.S. attorneys because she has direct personal
> > > >experience.
> > > > > In
> > > > > >any Congressional probe of the matter, we'd suggest she call
> >herself
> > > as
> > > > > the
> > > > > >first witness--and bring along Webster Hubbell as her chief
> >counsel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >As everyone once knew but has tried to forget, Mr. Hubbell was a
> > > former
> > > > > >partner of Mrs. Clinton at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock who
> >later
> > > > > went
> > > > > >to jail for mail fraud and tax evasion. He was also Bill and
> >Hillary
> > > > > >Clinton's choice as Associate Attorney General in the Justice
> > > >Department
> > > > > >when Janet Reno, his nominal superior, simultaneously fired all
> 93
> > > U.S.
> > > > > >Attorneys in March 1993. Ms. Reno--or Mr. Hubbell--gave them 10
> >days
> > > to
> > > > > >move
> > > > > >out of their offices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >At the time, President Clinton presented the move as something
> > > >perfectly
> > > > > >ordinary: "All those people are routinely replaced," he told
> > > reporters,
> > > > > >"and
> > > > > >I have not done anything differently." In fact, the dismissals
> were
> > > > > >unprecedented: Previous Presidents, including Ronald Reagan and
> >Jimmy
> > > > > >Carter, had both retained holdovers from the previous
> >Administration
> > > >and
> > > > > >only replaced them gradually as their tenures expired. This
> allowed
> > > > > >continuity of leadership within the U.S. Attorney offices during
> >the
> > > > > >transition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Equally extraordinary were the politics at play in the firings.
> At
> > > the
> > > > > >time,
> > > > > >Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia, was
> > > > > >investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski, and
> >was
> > > > > >"within
> > > > > >30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr. Rostenkowski,
> >who
> > > >was
> > > > > >shepherding the Clinton's economic program through Congress,
> > > eventually
> > > > > >went
> > > > > >to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr.
> >Clinton.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the Clintons'
> > > >Whitewater
> > > > > >dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S.
> Attorneys
> > > at
> > > > > >once,
> > > > > >the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint "Friend of
> > > Bill"
> > > > > >Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey never
> >did
> > > > > bring
> > > > > >any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected information from
> > > >another
> > > > > >FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas elite
> > > > > including
> > > > > >Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in short,
> the
> > > >Bush
> > > > > >White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  And it may be this very amateurism that explains how the
> current
> > > > > >Administration has managed to turn this routine issue of
> replacing
> > > > > >Presidential appointees into a political fiasco. There was
> nothing
> > > >wrong
> > > > > >with replacing the eight Attorneys, all of whom serve at the
> > > >President's
> > > > > >pleasure. Prosecutors deserve supervision like any other
> executive
> > > >branch
> > > > > >appointees.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The supposed scandal this week is that Mr. Bush had been informed
> > > last
> > > > > fall
> > > > > >that some U.S. Attorneys had been less than vigorous in pursuing
> > > > > >voter-fraud
> > > > > >cases and that the President had made the point to Attorney
> General
> > > > > Alberto
> > > > > >Gonzales. Voter fraud strikes at the heart of democratic
> > > institutions,
> > > > > and
> > > > > >it was entirely appropriate for Mr. Bush--or any President--to
> >insist
> > > > > that
> > > > > >his appointees act energetically against it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Take sacked U.S. Attorney John McKay from Washington state. In
> >2004,
> > > >the
> > > > > >Governor's race was decided in favor of Democrat Christine
> Gregoire
> > > by
> > > > > 129
> > > > > >votes on a third recount. As the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and
> >other
> > > > > media
> > > > > >outlets reported, some of the "voters" were deceased, others were
> > > > > >registered
> > > > > >in storage-rental facilities, and still others were convicted
> >felons.
> > > > > More
> > > > > >than 100 ballots were "discovered" in a Seattle warehouse. None
> of
> > > this
> > > > > >constitutes proof that the election was stolen. But it should
> have
> > > been
> > > > > >enough to prompt Mr. McKay, a Democrat, to investigate, something
> >he
> > > > > >declined to do, apparently on grounds that he had better things
> to
> > > do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In New Mexico, another state in which recent elections have been
> > > >decided
> > > > > by
> > > > > >razor thin margins, U.S. Attorney David Iglesias did establish a
> > > voter
> > > > > >fraud
> > > > > >task force in 2004. But it lasted all of 10 weeks before closing
> >its
> > > > > doors,
> > > > > >despite evidence of irregularities by the likes of the
> Association
> >of
> > > > > >Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn. As our John
> Fund
> > > > > reported
> > > > > >at the time, Acorn's director Matt Henderson refused to answer
> > > >questions
> > > > > in
> > > > > >court about whether his group had illegally made copies of voter
> > > > > >registration cards in the run-up to the 2004 election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  As for some of the other fired Attorneys, at least one of their
> > > > > >dismissals
> > > > > >seemed to owe to differences with the Administration about the
> >death
> > > > > >penalty, another to questions about the Attorney's managerial
> >skills.
> > > >Not
> > > > > >surprisingly, the dismissed Attorneys are insisting their
> >dismissals
> > > >were
> > > > > >unfair, and perhaps in some cases they were. It would not be the
> > > first
> > > > > time
> > > > > >in history that a dismissed employee did not take kindly to his
> > > firing,
> > > > > nor
> > > > > >would it be the first in which an employer sacked the wrong
> person.
> > > No
> > > > > >question, the Justice Department and White House have botched the
> > > > > handling
> > > > > >of this issue from start to finish. But what we don't have here
> is
> > > any
> > > > > >serious evidence that the Administration has acted improperly or
> to
> > > > > protect
> > > > > >some of its friends. If Democrats want to understand what a real
> > > abuse
> > > >of
> > > > > >power looks like, they can always ask the junior Senator from New
> > > York.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of course the AGs serve at the President's descrection however
> I
> > > >think
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > might be wrong about the firings/replacement starting with
> > > Clinton.
> > > >I
> > > > > > > thought the AG firings started at least as far back as Reagan
> >and
> > > >was
> > > > > >then
> > > > > > > followed by Bush and Clinton. I thought W's issues have more
> to
> >do
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > timing....if he would of done this in the first year or so it
> > > would
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > merely followed precedent ...by waiting he left the door open
> to
> > > > > > > criticism.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >
> > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:04 -0600
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >AG's serve at the President's discretion.  Clinton wholesale
> > > > > replacing
> > > > > > > ALL
> > > > > > > >of them at once was a first. The press at the time barely
> > > mentioned
> > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >Bush
> > > > > > > >replaced 8 out of almost 100.  Big deal.  This is a huge
> > > non-story
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > >ranks right up there with the one about whats-her-name dying,
> >you
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >one, that blonde chick with the big hooters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I've been tied down with airplane hangar issues and taxes but
> > > plan
> > > >to
> > > > > >get
> > > > > > > >on
> > > > > > > >the lake soon.  I haven't bothered to look and see if the
> front
> > > >that
> > > > > > > passed
> > > > > > > >here last night has made it past you, but it is chilly this
> > > >morning.
> > > > > >At
> > > > > > > >least there's some wind.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The sailing here has been great the last few days!!!  I
> have
> > > >been
> > > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > > NOT
> > > > > > > > > to follow the AG firings but doesn't every President do
> the
> > > same
> > > > > >thing
> > > > > > > > > Clinton did? I thought this was pretty standard when a new
> > > pres
> > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > in.....this may be a matter of bad timing? Wally
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:29:24 -0600
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Rummy,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Speaking of amnesia, last Sunday we had George
> >Stephanopoulos
> > > >on
> > > > > >his
> > > > > > > >ABC
> > > > > > > > > >news show discussing the firing of eight Attorney
> Generals,
> >a
> > > > > > > non-event
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > >there ever was one, and little Georgie keeps a straight
> >face
> > > > > >through
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >whole thing.  What a fine piece of acting.  Did George
> >share
> > > >his
> > > > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > > >as spokesperson for the Clinton administration explaining
> >the
> > > > > >firing
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >all,
> > > > > > > > > >every single friggin' AG in the US, including the one in
> > > Little
> > > > > >Rock
> > > > > > > > > >investigating Whitewater?  No, he continued on, sure that
> > > most
> > > >of
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >country is too stupid to know or care. He was right. Want
> >to
> > > >know
> > > > > >how
> > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > >press coverage that got when it happened?  About 20
> seconds
> > > on
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > network.
> > > > > > > > > >Fair and balanced?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Breaking News
> > > > > > > > > > > Scientists Study Memory Loss Among Politicians
> > > > > > > > > > > Near-amnesia Reaching Epidemic Proportions,
> Experts  Say
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > An "unprecedented epidemic of memory loss" is
> > > > > > > afflicting  America's
> > > > > > > > > > > politicians, making it virtually impossible for them
> to
> > > > > >remember
> > > > > > > >key
> > > > > > > > > > > phone
> > > > > > > > > > > conversations, meetings, and memos, a spokesman  for
> the
> > > > > world's
> > > > > > > > > leading
> > > > > > > > > > > brain
> > > > > > > > > > > scientists said today.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The  spokesman, Dr. Hiroshi Kyosuke of the University
> of
> > > > > Tokyo,
> > > > > >is
> > > > > > > >one
> > > > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > over four hundred eminent brain scientists who have
> > > gathered
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > >Oslo,
> > > > > > > > > > > Norway
> > > > > > > > > > > this week for a high-level research conference to
> > > probe  the
> > > > > > > recent
> > > > > > > > > > > phenomenon
> > > > > > > > > > > of memory loss that has plagued the nation's
> >politicians.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "The question at hand is this: why are  politicians so
> > > good
> > > >at
> > > > > > > > > >remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > contributors' names and phone  numbers but so bad at
> > > > > remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > everything else?
> > > > > > > > > > > " Dr. Kyosuke  said.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Over the course of the conference, brain scientists
> >have
> > > > > > > presented
> > > > > > > > > > > research
> > > > > > > > > > > papers on a variety of subjects related to  memory
> loss,
> > > >such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > former
> > > > > > > > > > > New
> > > > > > > > > > > York mayor Rudolph Giuliani's  inability to remember a
> > > > > briefing
> > > > > >he
> > > > > > > > > > > received
> > > > > > > > > > > about former police  commissioner Bernard Kerik's
> >possible
> > > > > ties
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > organized
> > > > > > > > > > > crime.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "That seems like the sort of thing that a normal human
> > > > > > > brain  would
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > difficulty remembering," Dr. Kyosuke said. "What
> we  are
> > > > > >learning
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > >this
> > > > > > > > > > > conference is that when it comes to  politicians'
> >brains,
> > > we
> > > > > >have
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > >much
> > > > > > > > > > > more to
> > > > > > > > > > > learn."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On  Monday, a full day of the conference was devoted
> to
> >a
> > > > > paper
> > > > > > > > > >entitled,
> > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > The Neuroscience of Scooter Libby," followed by a
> >keynote
> > > > > >address
> > > > > > > > > given
> > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > While  many attendees considered Mr. Gonzales' speech
> a
> > > > > >highpoint
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > conference, the Attorney General offered a different
> > > > > assessment:
> > > > > > > "I
> > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > recollection of it."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, President Bush said  he would devote the
> > > >remainder
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > >term
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > fighting global  warming, adding, "April  Fools!"
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > >
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