[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit cushions Re: Buying a Rhodes

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Fri Aug 24 02:46:37 EDT 2007


Alice,

I'm not sure what you mean by "getting up there."  If the rip is close to
the triangular section that stays outside the mast, then that would imply
that the rip is low, not high on the sail.  I would think a repair could be
done without removing the sail--unless I've misunderstood.  A photo might
help...I mean a photo might help a sailmaker decide what to do.  Take a shot
if you can and take the picture to a sailmaker.  The photo will also help
with the insurance claim.  Borrow a digital camera if you don't have one.  I
think that's your next step.  Good luck and keep us posted.

Slim

On 8/23/07, ALICE WEISZ <amicw5 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Slim
>
> Yes, I have IMF and I haven't had a sailmaker look at it yet.  Still
> waiting to hear from insurance if they'll replace it (long story dating back
> to hurricaine in 2005).  The rip is at the junction of sail with colored
> triangular section that stays outside of the mast.  As the boat is in the
> water and I have no trailer, getting up there would take a bit of
> maneuvering that I doubt any sane person would volunteer for.
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Alice
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Steven Alm<mailto:stevenalm at gmail.com>
>   To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:50 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit cushions Re: Buying a Rhodes
>
>
>   Alice,
>
>   Assuming you have IMF, yes, the mast must come down to get the main sail
>   out.  The whole roller assembly, sail and all slide out the bottom of
> the
>   mast.  The tricky part is disconnecting the boom and threading the
> furling
>   line back in when reassembling.  This can be a bit daunting unless you
> have
>   confidence in your mechanical ability as well as an additional helper.
>   Otherwise, you can take the whole mast to the loft and let them do
> it.  A
>   third option, which would depend on the severity of the rip, is to
> repair it
>   without removing it from the mast.  Have you had a sailmaker/repair
> expert
>   look at it?
>
>   Slim
>
>   On 8/23/07, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:
> mtroy at atlanticbb.net>> wrote:
>   >
>   > If you have IMF, the answer is yes. We did this at the dock a few
>   > years ago (we have the GB mast raising/lower system) for a repair at
>   > the top of the jib (old style GB furler). Not sure what is involved
>   > for removing the mainsail and whether that could be done at the dock.
>   >
>   > Mary Lou
>   >
>   > At 01:49 PM 8/23/2007, you wrote:
>   > >Mary Lou,
>   > >Thanks for your help.  Might I ask you another question?  My
>   > >Mainsail is ripped.  Must the mast be lowered in order to remove it
>   > >for repair??
>   > >
>   > >Alice
>   > >   ----- Original Message -----
>   > >   From: Mary Lou Troy<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:
> mtroy at atlanticbb.net>>
>   > >   To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>   > >   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:52 PM
>   > >   Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit cushions Re: Buying a Rhodes
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >   Alice,
>   > >   Other than wiping up spills we've never had to really clean ours -
>   > >   they are a medium blue with dark closed cell foam. Sounds like
> yours
>   > >   are white? If they are Phifertex and are yellowed, there may not
> be
>   > >   much you can do about it - according to their website it's vinyl
>   > >   coated polyester yarn. I'm not sure anything whitens vinyl and
> bleach
>   > >   may make it worse. You might try inquiring from the company. Their
>   > >   website is http://www.phifer.com/<http://www.phifer.com/<
> http://www.phifer.com/%3Chttp://www.phifer.com/>>
>   > >
>   > >   Mary Lou
>   > >   1991 R22 Fretless
>   > >   Rock Hall, MD
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >   At 11:54 AM 8/23/2007, you wrote:
>   > >   >Mary Lou,
>   > >   >How do you clean the cockpit cushions....mine are yellowed both
>   > >   >inside and out and everything I've tried (including bleach) seems
>   > useless.
>   > >   >
>   > >   >Alice
>   > >   >BEATS PROZAC
>   > >   >Kent Island, MD
>   > >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   > >   >   From: Mary Lou
>   > > Troy<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:
> mtroy at atlanticbb.net%3Cmailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net>>>
>   > >   >   To: The Rhodes 22 mail
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>   > >>
>   > >   >   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:32 PM
>   > >   >   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying a Rhodes
>   > >   >
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   I agree with Anne about the cockpit cushions. They seem so
> basic
>   > to
>   > >   >   the boat that I forget that they are options. The ones that
> come
>   > with
>   > >   >   the R22 are shaped to the curves of the cockpit. Ours were
> used
>   > but
>   > >   >   the folks at the factory cleaned them up and they cleaned up
>   > nicely.
>   > >   >   The Phifertex (I think) material is rugged, cleans easily and
> is
>   > >   >   comfortable to sit on even when it's very hot out. If they get
>   > wet,
>   > >   >   the closed cell foam does not absorb water and the mesh of the
>   > >   >   Phifertes allows them to dry quickly. After nine years of
> fairly
>   > >   >   heavy use, the vinyl piping on ours is going (we'll probably
> get
>   > >   >   another 5 years out of it) but the mesh fabric is holding up
>   > > really well.
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   Mary Lou
>   > >   >   1991 R22 Fretless
>   > >   >   Rock Hall, MD
>   > >   >
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   At 10:09 PM 8/22/2007, you wrote:
>   > >   >   >Dan,
>   > >   >   >You will love the boat.
>   > >   >   >You are on a tight budget. This boat is a great investment.
>   > >   >   >Forget about the captain chairs....you will enjoy the cockpit
>   > >   > cushions much
>   > >   >   >better. Keep it simple for now.
>   > >   >   >I agree, you need the hatches you choose to be done at
>   > > General Boats while
>   > >   >   >they can
>   > >   >   >do it correctly. But, I gotta tell ya, handheld GPS and VHF
>   > > are just fine
>   > >   >   >for now.
>   > >   >   >Remember, the best thing about sailing is that you have
>   > > independence and
>   > >   >   >this
>   > >   >   >boat gives you that and assurance with its intrinsic safety.
>   > >   >   >Keep it simple. Seems to me in your first note that you were
>   > > going for way
>   > >   >   >too far from your budget.
>   > >   >   >This boat is just fabulous on its own. You can add each year
> and
>   > >   > this gives
>   > >   >   >you such joy every year.
>   > >   >   >Anne
>   > >   >   >Ky Lake
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   >----- Original Message -----
>   > >   >   >From: "Dan Johnson"
>   > >   >
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>   > >   >   >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>   > >   >
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>   > >   >   >Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:55 PM
>   > >   >   >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying a Rhodes
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   > > Art,
>   > >   >   > >
>   > >   >   > > My wife does middle school guidance; I do high school
> math.
>   > >   >   > >
>   > >   >   > > We are getting lots of suggestions.  I need to get these
> all
>   > >   > sorted out in
>   > >   >   > > my mind before committing to anything (except the boat -
> we
>   > >   > are committed
>   > >   >   > > to
>   > >   >   > > it and I know we will love it.)
>   > >   >   > >
>   > >   >   > > Thanks
>   > >   >   > >
>   > >   >   > > Dan
>   > >   >   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > >   >   > > From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky"
>   > >   >
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>   > >   >   > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>   > >   >
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>   > >   >   > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:46 PM
>   > >   >   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying a Rhodes
>   > >   >   > >
>   > >   >   > >
>   > >   >   > >> What do you teach.  I do Middle School, all subjects.
>   > >   >   > >> Art
>   > >   >   > >>
>   > >   >   > >> -----Original Message-----
>   > >   >   > >> >From: Dan Johnson
>   > >   >
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>   > >   >   > >> >Sent: Aug 22, 2007 7:43 AM
>   > >   >   > >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>   > >   >
>   > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>   > >   >   > >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying a Rhodes
>   > >   >   > >> >
>   > >   >   > >> >Elle,
>   > >   >   > >> >
>   > >   >   > >> >Thanks for your offer.  We'd love to take you up on your
>   > >   > offer to talk
>   > >   >   > > and
>   > >   >   > >> >see your boat.  We are both school teachers so will be
>   > > going "back to
>   > >   >   > > work"
>   > >   >   > >> >next week, but most weekends are open in the fall.
>   > >   >   > >> >
>   > >   >   > >> >Thanks again.
>   > >   >   > >> >
>   > >   >   > >> >Dan
>   > >   >   > >> >----- Original Message -----
>   > >   >   > >> >From: "elle"
>   > > <watermusic38 at yahoo.com<mailto:watermusic38 at yahoo.com<mailto<mailto:
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>   > >   >   > >> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>   > >   >
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>   > >   >   > >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:55 AM
>   > >   >   > >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying a Rhodes
>   > >   >   > >> >
>   > >   >   > >> >
>   > >   >   > >> >> Hi, Dan,
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >> I live on the Northern Neck; a little over an hour
>   > >   >   > >> >> from you ...depending which side of F-burg you live
>   > >   >   > >> >> on.
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >> You are more than welcome to come down & take a test
>   > >   >   > >> >> sail on WaterMusic & the Potomac...and I can steer you
>   > >   >   > >> >> to (and away from!) some marinas to check out this way
>   > >   >   > >> >> & into MD.....
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >> elle
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can
>   > >   > adjust our sails.
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>  1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in
> Red)
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>
>   > >   >   > >> >>
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