[Rhodes22-list] Humor, political, Canadian style

[Mary Lou Troy]

Slim,
One reason to be concerned is that if someone parks his car in front 
of your house and downloads a bunch of child porn, it's gone through 
your router. I doubt that home routers keep logs so you may be ok 
anyway although your ISP may have to report you to someone. In any 
event when you set up the router you probably had the opportunity to 
set a password. You may have skipped or not seen those instructions. 
On our set-up, our computers remember the password so we don't have to.

Mary Lou

At 04:00 PM 12/7/2007, you wrote:
>Robert,
>
>The link you sent was a dead end but I believe you have it right.  I was
>reading some of the comments after the article that Brad sent and one person
>wrote that a router doesn't store any addresses, it just routes them.  Once
>they log out it's gone.  He compared it to asking your mailbox who sent the
>last letter.  This, however doesn't make me any less uncomfortable.
>
>One issue is that I do indeed have an open WiFi at my home.  First, I don't
>even know how to set it up with a password and second, I'd rather not have
>to put in a password every time I go online.  My wife would also see that as
>extra hassle.  And why should I worry anyway?  All anyone would find on my
>computer is a sh*t load of music and a lot of pictures of boats, email to
>you guys, and flight itinerary for my next trip.  The only thing even close
>to being confidential is my folder where I keep info on my travel expenses
>and other deductions.  Hardly worth anything to anybody but me.  I do a
>little online banking and some bill paying but that's all encrypted and
>password-protected.  I think the worst they could do would be to transfer
>money from my savings to my checking.  I check with the bank periodically
>and they have reported no Tomfoolery.  My apologies to anyone named Tom and
>no implications are implied.
>
>The technology is bit over my head but since I use a router, doesn't that
>keep me safe?  I have, on occasion, snagged some one's private WiFi signal
>so I could get on line but it never took me to their computer.  Then again,
>I'm no hacker and wouldn't know where to begin.
>
>Just the same, how do you change your Mac address?
>
>Slim
>
>On Dec 7, 2007 10:59 AM, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>
> > Slim, check text of bill H.R.3791:
> >
> > 
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c110:./temp/~c110Zx7jjj<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c110:./temp/%7Ec110Zx7jjj>
> >
> > Bill is also in Senate: S.519
> >
> > If it is in the Thomas register, per the above, it is not a
> > hoax.  Too bad.
> >
> > The bill does not require a WiFi provider (Starbucks, etc.)
> > to look for any activity, but requires them to report any
> > nasty stuff to all kinds of government agencies and keep
> > evidence for 180 days.
> >
> > I can see that WiFi providers (Minneapolis?) might see this
> > as a requirement to keep logs of all traffic over their
> > networks, since they may not spot a miscreant immediately,
> > and if they do, they have to report it and keep evidence.
> > Many small and timid businesses will drop WiFi service
> > rather than get into this bind.
> >
> > But the larger ones will continue to offer WiFi, creating
> > a pool of data for the Feds, etc. to mine after the fact.
> > And, as shown in recent inquiries into government
> > wiretapping, any data base is considered fair game when
> > the Administration considers itself above the law.
> >
> > I don't know how this bill will help enforcement.  Unless
> > you have to log into a WiFi service with an ID and password,
> > established with some traceable and verifiable methodology,
> > there is no way for a WiFi service to really know who is on
> > their network.  Even the MAC address of my WiFi card can be
> > changed.
> >
> > Anyone with WiFi capability can access any open WiFi network.
> > This bill's chilling effect will ultimately have the effect
> > of closing WiFi networks.
> >
> > The congress's "If it mentions porn, it can't be bad" attitude
> > is not only letting the camel's nose into the tent - it is
> > inviting him for the night.  These 21st century witch-hunts are
> > getting completely out of hand.  Even the methods
> > (waterboarding = Puritan dunking chair) are the same.  Of
> > course, with tazers we don't need hot irons any more.
> > Progress!  No marks as evidence.
> >
> > It looks as if the lobbyists from the big land-line telcos
> > are anxious to prevent their customers from defecting to
> > Internet-based phone service.  The loss of revenues from
> > millions who would go that way will be huge.  The transition
> > to Internet access and Internet phone via cable tv is
> > already moving along smartly.  The wireless companies
> > (Verizon, Cingular-AT&T, etc.) thought they had it locked
> > up, but WiFi is an end run around them.
> >
> > Tom Allen, my US rep, apparently voted in favor of suspending
> > the rules so that this bill could be slid into law without
> > much (if any) debate.  I am disgusted with this cavalier
> > treatment of the public.
> >
> > /Robert
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Steven Alm wrote:
> > >
> > > Minneapolis is one of the first wave of large cities to go WiFi
> > city-wide.
> > > They've put up the antennas every 600 feet and have nearly finished
> > > providing service to the whole city.  How are they going to police all
> > > that--let alone the whole country?
> > >
> > > And c'mon...cartoons?  I suppose if you want to kill someone for
> > portraying
> > > Muhammad in a cartoon, you'd be welcome and fit right in in this
> > country?
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
> > > On Dec 6, 2007 10:50 PM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > sorry
> > > >  i was referring to the commentary below article. guy named burt.
> > > > commenting on article and laying down a link to his anti porno
> > webpage.
> > > > cites various people, judges kids, police officers and homeless people
> > using
> > > > library computers, convicted of possessing child porn. his page is
> > riddled
> > > > with inaccuracies, as i mentioned. not to make light of the subject,
> > but ,he
> > > > really should read what he puts up for others to believe as truth.
> > must be a
> > > > good law though, only two people voted against it.
> > > >
> > http://filteringfacts.org/category/internet-safety/child-porn/arrests/
> > > > Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  John,
> > > >
> > > > What in the world are you talking about? How does your post relate to
> > what
> > > > Brad sent out? Sorry, but I'm confused. Please enlighten me.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Hank
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 6, 2007 6:51 PM, john Belanger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > i'm not generally one to knit-pick but the name of burts site is
> > > > filtering
> > > > > facts. but just how many robert lee nikkel's are there? this guy
> > sounds
> > > > too
> > > > > urban legendy to me. no photos, no newspaper links, and if my name
> > was
> > > > > unfug, what choice would i have? also triple the number of cases
> > over
> > > > last
> > > > > year cannot be 1/3 of 22. bs
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad Haslett wrote: Slim,
> > > > >
> > > > > This just in:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9829759-38.html?tag=nefd.top
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't blame a particular party on this one. They're all idiots!
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > > On Dec 6, 2007 3:46 AM, Steven Alm wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Relax, Pete,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You've got nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Slim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 5, 2007 2:31 PM, petelargo
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pretty funny. It's even funnier pretending that we are the ones
> > > > living
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > free country with actual civil rights.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WARNING: Due to presidential executive orders and signing
> > > > statements,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > provisions passed by the previous Republican-controlled
> > Congress,
> > > > the
> > > > > > > National Security Agency may have read this posting, as well as
> > and
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > other private correspondence of mine, and may listen to my
> > private
> > > > > phone
> > > > > > > conversations without warrant, warning, or notice, and certainly
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > probable cause. They may also arrest me without telling me of
> > any
> > > > > > charges
> > > > > > > against me, even transport me outside the United States, and
> > hold me
> > > > > > > secretly and indefinitely in an undisclosed location without
> > > > notifying
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > wife or relatives, and deny me access to an attorney. They may
> > take
> > > > my
> > > > > > > property under the executive order of July 17, 2007, never to be
> > > > > > returned.
> > > > > > > They may torture me without fear of penalty or repercussions to
> > them
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > their actions. They may do all these things to me, or to you,
> > with
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > no judicial or legislative oversight. This danger became ever
> > more
> > > > > > > apparent,
> > > > > > > and ominous, on Sept. 19, 2007, when the U.S. Senate failed to
> > > > > reinstate
> > > > > > > habeas corpus as an inalienable right of American citizens. I/We
> > > > have
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the
> > > > > current
> > > > > > > president and vice-president, and voting to remove all
> > rubber-stamp
> > > > > > > Republicans and neocons from office, as well as other elected
> > > > > officials
> > > > > > > acting only in their own interests instead of those of the
> > People
> > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Constitution, be they occupying local, state, or national
> > positions
> > > > of
> > > > > > > authority.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tootle wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Big Al, you may delete this post immediately as it has nothing
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > sailing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have not heard from Stan lately, maybe he is among this
> > group?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > __________________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > > > From the Manitoba Herald
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into
> > > > > > Canada
> > > > > > > > has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased
> > > > > patrols
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > stop the illegal immigration.
> > > > > > > > The actions of President Bush are prompting the exodus among
> > > > > > > > left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to
> > hunt,
> > > > > pray,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > agree With Bill O'Reilly.
> > > > > > > > Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of
> > > > > > > > sociology professors, animal-rights activists and Unitarians
> > > > > crossing
> > > > > > > > their fields at night. "I went out to milk the cows the other
> > day,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said
> > Manitoba
> > > > > > > farmer
> > > > > > > > Red Greenfield, Whose acreage borders North Dakota. "The
> > producer
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > cold, exhausted and hungry. He asked me if I could spare a
> > latte
> > > > and
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left.
> > Didn't
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?"
> > > > > > > > In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected
> > higher
> > > > > > > > fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing
> > > > > speakers
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective,"
> > he
> > > > > said.
> > > > > > > "The
> > > > > > > > liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much
> > they
> > > > > > > > wouldn't give milk."
> > > > > > > > Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet
> > > > > > > liberals
> > > > > > > > near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons,
> > > > drive
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > across the border and leave them to fend for themselves.
> > > > > > > > "A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged
> > conditions," an
> > > > > > > > Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a
> > drop
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > drinking Water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley
> > cabernet,
> > > > > > > though."
> > > > > > > > When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border,
> > > > > > often
> > > > > > > > wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives.
> > > > Rumors
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been Circulating about the Bush administration establishing
> > > > > > reeducation
> > > > > > > > camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer
> > and
> > > > > > watch
> > > > > > > > NASCAR Races.
> > > > > > > > In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious
> > ways
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior
> > citizens
> > > > on
> > > > > > bus
> > > > > > > > trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching
> > a
> > > > > > > > half-dozen young Vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian
> > > > > > immigration
> > > > > > > > authorities began Stopping buses and quizzing the supposed
> > > > > > > senior-citizen
> > > > > > > > passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove
> > they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > > alive in the '50s. "If they can't identify the accordion
> > player on
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > Lawrence Welk Show, We get suspicious about their age," an
> > > > official
> > > > > > > said.
> > > > > > > > Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants
> > are
> > > > > > > > creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good
> > > > Susan
> > > > > > > > Sarandon Movies. "I feel sorry for American liberals, but the
> > > > > > > Canadian
> > > > > > > > economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said.
> > "How
> > > > many
> > > > > > > > art-history majors does one country need?"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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