[Rhodes22-list] getting started/ thanks to all

Tom Hogarty hogarty at vcn.com
Sun Dec 16 11:14:24 EST 2007


Thanks for the helpful reply.  I was not concerned about the stability of the
Rhodes, or the claim to not capsize, but was confused about something I had
read regarding the difficulty righting.  The shallow water and mud explains
it all.
Tom


Geankoplis wrote:
> 
> Dear Tom,
> 	   I think I am the only person in the last 30 years that managed to
> capsize a Rhodes, and that took a tornado.  I can say if the mast is 10
> feet
> in the mud of the pot on Poplar Island it won't right itself, but as soon
> as
> I released the stays and bolt on the tabernacle the boat popped upright
> after a slight hesitation. I've sailed them for the last 30 years and the
> Rhodes is the best boat you can find for its length.  My advice is let
> Stan
> handle everything, a referb is a custom boat designed for you, lucky dog.
> 
> Chris G
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] getting started
> 
> 
> Welcome,
>     I am across the bay from you on Tilghman Island and would be happy to
> help . There a number of Rhodes on the bay.. I have a 2000 referb and
> frankly I don't know if it has the diamond keel or not.
> I suspect it does.. I would doubt that the keel style has all that much
> effect on sailability but I would leave that answer to others.. A new boat
> might entail a longer wait ..
>            I don't know quite what you mean by self righting.. If the boat
> is heeled over hard, the hull drag will slow you enough to keep from
> capsizing in any situation I have seen.. I have had it hard on the rail
> lots
> of times.It is fun but not really where you want to be if trimmed right
> for
> speed.
> That being said, a microburst did capsize a Rhodes several years ago here
> near Knapps Narrows. The mast I believe was impaled in the mud and
> prevented
> it from geting righted.. I don't know what would happen if it were deep
> enough to do a full turtle.. It has lots of flotation. Stan would have to
> tell you how a fully water loaded Rhodes will float but I think it would
> sink only as far as the gunwales. I do not know of a safer boat in its
> size
> range..If sudden storms are your concern.. reef 95% of your sails for
> stability and /or head into the wind using the motor or anchor. The upper
> and middle Bay are so narrow, you are not far from some shelter most of
> the
> time. Lower bay can be a good bit worse though there are some pretty rough
> conditions on occasion in upper and middle.. Talk to as many experienced
> sailors as you can find.. 
> They will be happy to share their experiences and horror stories with
> you..:-) How they reacted to problems is always a lesson in what to do or
> not to do.
>                                 Rory
> 
> 
> Tom Hogarty wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, I'm new to sailing, just leased a slip on the Chesapeake, Holiday
>> Hill Marina, Mayo, Maryland, and have decided to get a Rhodes.  Stan just
>> received our deposit, and we have not yet decided which boat to purchase. 
>> Does anyone on this list have one for sale?  Does anyone have enough
>> experience with the new diamond keel to say it justify the cost of a new 
>> boat?  Does anything remotely related to a boat have to be justified?
>> I understand that these are hard to capsize and have positive flotation,
>> are they self righting as well?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Tom Hogarty
>> 
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