[Rhodes22-list] Economics - strictly sail

[Ronald Lipton]

Rik,

    Elton was indeed there today.  I didn't get your note until this 
evening. I
hope that someone going on Saturday can convey your greetings.  
Evidently
he arrived a bit late due to "white out" conditions near Mishuwaka and 
the
boat still needed a bit of cleaning due to the road salt.  Early 
practice for
spring commissioning.

Ron
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Rik Sandberg wrote:

> Ron,
>
> I'm sure you'll see Elton at the show. We had hoped to be able to go 
> ourselves, but timing on some other unavoidable things got in the way. 
> If you'd say HI from Rik and Sandy and tell him we wanted to be there, 
> but couldn't make it, I'd sure appreciate it.
>
> Have fun at the show.
>
> Rik
>
>
> Slim wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>> Frankly, I'm insulted to be left off that list.
>> Enjoy the show.  Wish I was there.
>> Slim
>>
>> On 2/1/07 8:29 AM, "Ronald Lipton" <rlipton at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> Please don't tell me what kind of brain I have, What kind of
>>> traveller I am
>>> or how I feel about bureaucracy.  Please don't tell me who or what I
>>> think
>>> needs to be nurtured.   I am a liberal in most areas, proud of it, 
>>> and
>>> feel that
>>> the ideas of equality and openness are at the core of what has made
>>> this a
>>> great country.  But my detailed beliefs are a result of my own 
>>> thoughts,
>>> my family's heritage and background, and my understanding of the 
>>> world
>>> and
>>> the nation.  It doesn't serve any purpose to categorize me on a 
>>> range of
>>> issues due to a handful of postings to a sailing forumn. It may be
>>> representative
>>> of your own limited thought process and prejudices. At some point 
>>> some
>>> of us may be insulted by your scattershot approach to personal and
>>> political
>>> name calling.
>>>
>>> I am going to the sailboat show.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Tootle wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Brother Bradley:
>>>>
>>>>     You do not expect Dave L or Bill E or Ron L or the other fellow
>>>> travelers to read and embrace this concept do you.  You are just
>>>> pissing
>>>> into the wind.
>>>>
>>>>      The first problem you encounter is that they have television
>>>> brains.
>>>> Just change the channel and instantly things will be fine.  Second,
>>>> they do
>>>> not believe that democracy needs to be nurtured.  That goes back to
>>>> their
>>>> television mentality where things will be instantly fine.  Third, 
>>>> they
>>>> believe that bureaucracies work, there is no place for free people 
>>>> and
>>>> individual responsibility.  Are you trying to create chaos or was 
>>>> that
>>>> Peter
>>>> Drucker?
>>>>
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>> Addendum:  "It is not by the consolidation of concentration of 
>>>> powers,
>>>> but
>>>> by  their distribution, that good government is affected." Thomas
>>>> Jefferson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is worthy of your time - check local listings.  Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> *TV's Evangelist for Capitalism
>>>>> *The man behind "Free to Choose" with Milton Friedman.
>>>>>
>>>>> *BY JOHN H. FUND*
>>>>> *Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:01 a.m.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Despite his renown as a Nobel Prize-winning economist and 
>>>>> best-selling
>>>>> author, most people came to know the late Milton Friedman through
>>>>> television. His 10-part 1980 series, "Free to Choose," was so 
>>>>> popular
>>>>> that
>>>>> it aired three times on public television and is even now adding 
>>>>> fans
>>>>> via
>>>>> a
>>>>> free Internet video-stream (www.ideachannel.tv).
>>>>>
>>>>> So it's fitting that the original team of producers for "Free to
>>>>> Choose"
>>>>> returned to PBS Monday (declared "Milton Friedman Day" in 
>>>>> California
>>>>> by
>>>>> Gov.
>>>>> Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco) 
>>>>> with a
>>>>> 90-minute intellectual biography called "The Power of Choice: The
>>>>> Life and
>>>>> Times of Milton Friedman." (Many public television stations are
>>>>> airing the
>>>>> program at other times this week; check local listings.)
>>>>>
>>>>> The show ranges far and wide to show the influence of Friedman's
>>>>> thought.
>>>>> Former Prime Minister Mart Laar of Estonia, a former Soviet 
>>>>> satellite
>>>>> that
>>>>> turned to free markets in desperation after independence, says that
>>>>> "the
>>>>> only book about economy what I read was 'Free to Choose,' but there
>>>>> was a
>>>>> lot of good ideas in there, and I introduced a big part of those."
>>>>> Such
>>>>> Friedmanite reforms as a 23% flat-rate income tax (soon to fall to
>>>>> 20%)
>>>>> have
>>>>> led the latest "Index of Economic Freedom" to list Estonia as the 
>>>>> 12th
>>>>> most
>>>>> free economy in the world, ahead of Denmark and the Netherlands. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> show
>>>>> is
>>>>> chock-full of tributes from figures as diverse as Alan Greenspan 
>>>>> and
>>>>> Gov.
>>>>> Schwarzenegger.
>>>>>
>>>>> As much as the show is a celebration of Friedman's life and work, 
>>>>> it
>>>>> also
>>>>> showcases the remarkable entrepreneur who made it and "Free to 
>>>>> Choose"
>>>>> possible. Bob Chitester produced the original series while serving 
>>>>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> only public-TV station manager in the country who didn't believe in
>>>>> government subsidies. A tireless promoter, he raised the equivalent
>>>>> of $8
>>>>> million today for the series--entirely from private sources, an
>>>>> achievement
>>>>> that delighted Friedman.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Chitester came to the project with an unusual background. In
>>>>> 1966, he
>>>>> became the general manager of the PBS station in Erie, Pa., at age
>>>>> 29. An
>>>>> opponent of the Vietnam War, he handed out literature for George
>>>>> McGovern
>>>>> in
>>>>> 1972 and admits he knew nothing about economics. Then, in 1976, he 
>>>>> met
>>>>> with
>>>>> economist W. Allen Wallis, who gave him a copy of Friedman's
>>>>> "Capitalism
>>>>> and
>>>>> Freedom." Mr. Chitester soaked it up, became a believer in markets,
>>>>> and
>>>>> immediately began pursuing Friedman to do a series that would 
>>>>> provide
>>>>> a
>>>>> counterpoint to one by liberal economist John Kenneth Galbraith 
>>>>> that
>>>>> PBS
>>>>> was
>>>>> airing.
>>>>>
>>>>> After all these years, Mr. Chitester is still surprised by how 
>>>>> easily
>>>>> Friedman's cooperation came. "I was a bearded, leather-jacketed,
>>>>> small-town
>>>>> TV executive, yet he treated me as competent and honorable, as he 
>>>>> did
>>>>> everyone he met, until you proved otherwise," he recalls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surprisingly, Friedman insisted on not writing a script in advance 
>>>>> of
>>>>> filming. The points that would be made in each scene were 
>>>>> discussed,
>>>>> but
>>>>> his
>>>>> commentary was extemporaneous. This resulted in such gems as the
>>>>> economist
>>>>> sitting in a sweatshop in New York's Chinatown, where he recalled 
>>>>> the
>>>>> days
>>>>> when his mother worked in a similar environment. "Life was hard,"
>>>>> Friedman
>>>>> noted, "but opportunity was real." He then transports the audience 
>>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>> junk
>>>>> floating in the harbor of Hong Kong, "the freest market in the 
>>>>> world,"
>>>>> where
>>>>> Friedman discusses how the then-British colony's leaders refused to
>>>>> collect
>>>>> some economic statistics because they feared they would be used as 
>>>>> an
>>>>> excuse
>>>>> for government intervention in the booming economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the success of "Free to Choose," Mr. Chitester has gone on to
>>>>> produce
>>>>> programs that range across time and space, from a dramatization of
>>>>> how the
>>>>> Pilgrims realized the importance of private property to a series on
>>>>> private
>>>>> space exploration. He has produced five teaching kits based on John
>>>>> Stossel's ABC News TV specials that have been used in 84,000
>>>>> classrooms to
>>>>> encourage more rigorous thinking about science and economics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, Mr. Chitester is most excited about a two-hour program he is
>>>>> producing featuring Hernando de Soto. A Peruvian economist, Mr. de
>>>>> Soto
>>>>> has
>>>>> been the target of murder attempts by drug barons and Marxist
>>>>> terrorists
>>>>> who
>>>>> fear his message that the poor in developing nations need true
>>>>> capitalism--property rights, markets and the rule of law. Time
>>>>> magazine
>>>>> recently named him one of the five leading Latin American 
>>>>> innovators
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> century.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. de Soto warns that capitalism isn't working for the majority of
>>>>> the
>>>>> world's people. This is largely because economic elites use their
>>>>> power to
>>>>> restrict competition, limit access to capital and promote their 
>>>>> vested
>>>>> interests over those less fortunate. That, in turn, undermines the
>>>>> potential
>>>>> of free markets to spread wealth and opportunity in the same way 
>>>>> that
>>>>> has
>>>>> made developed nations so successful. "The poor are not the 
>>>>> problem;
>>>>> they
>>>>> are the solution," Mr. de Soto says. "Give them access to land 
>>>>> titles
>>>>> that
>>>>> can be used for collateral, the rule of law, a responsive 
>>>>> bureaucracy
>>>>> and
>>>>> streamlined tools of business, and you will see creativity and
>>>>> entrepreneurial self-reliance flourish."
>>>>>
>>>>> The program being planned for Mr. de Soto will take him from an
>>>>> Albanian
>>>>> village, where ancient disputes over who owns what land are 
>>>>> prompting
>>>>> young
>>>>> people to leave the country, to the office of a Tanzanian banker 
>>>>> who
>>>>> has
>>>>> tried in vain for 12 years to get a mortgage. Increasingly, Mr. de
>>>>> Soto
>>>>> says
>>>>> Americans need to appreciate how much developing nations are
>>>>> dominated by
>>>>> an
>>>>> extralegal economy that must be brought into the mainstream. "What
>>>>> Bob is
>>>>> proposing is an eye-opening look at how to finally make poor 
>>>>> countries
>>>>> wealthy by empowering their people," says Ed Crane, president of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Cato
>>>>> Institute.
>>>>>
>>>>> But TV's evangelist for capitalism has other projects, too. He has
>>>>> storyboards done for a series on Bjorn Lomborg, the Danish 
>>>>> scientist
>>>>> who
>>>>> has
>>>>> gathered Nobel laureates together to agree on where money should be
>>>>> spent
>>>>> to
>>>>> safeguard human life. (Hint: global-warming curbs are far down the
>>>>> list.)
>>>>> A
>>>>> program on the life of former Secretary of State George Shultz is 
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> works.
>>>>>
>>>>> This week's PBS special pays tribute to the many achievements of
>>>>> Milton
>>>>> Friedman. One that is often underappreciated is the extent to 
>>>>> which he
>>>>> demonstrated how visual images could influence and shape public
>>>>> debate. As
>>>>> his most ardent electronic disciple, Bob Chitester deserves the
>>>>> free-market
>>>>> community's equivalent of an Oscar.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mr. Fund is a columnist for OpinionJournal.com.*
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