[Rhodes22-list] Smoking cessation reply to Bob and Slim, et al.

[Bill Effros]

Yeah, Ed,

Slim,

When you finish with the pills, Cocaine blocks dopamine receptors.

Bill Effros

Rik Sandberg wrote:
> Excuse me Ed, but I gotta' agree with Robert on this one
>
>> Finally, you should be ashamed of yourself for uttering even a 
>> syllable of discouragement in the presence of someone undertaking the 
>> most difficult task of breaking an addiction.
>>
> Better to quit smoking than to continue. Quitting WILL cause an 
> improvement in health. Not quitting WILL cause further damage. Which 
> is better??? Would an encouraging word be too much to ask from you 
> once in a while???
>
> Rik
>
>
>
> Robert Skinner wrote:
>
>> Ed, in your own endearing way, you have left on a one-man parade of 
>> verbosity without putting your pants on.  For your edification, I 
>> have interspersed my observations and corrections in your stream of 
>> unconsciousness.
>>
>> /Robert
>>
>> Tootle wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Bob,  You say that you are sorry about
>>> informing others of the veracity of posts
>>> by checking Snopes?
>>>   
>>
>> Yes, Ed, I regret that some of our more enlightened members may feel 
>> some hurt as they find that long-standing beliefs are at odds with 
>> the facts, and have to accommodate a new view.  I do not expect that 
>> you have that problem.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> I have not checked Snopes on the following because not
>>> all will agree with it up front.  You said, "At this
>>> point, the docs cannot determine whether we ever smoked
>>> based on our physical exams.  It's now as if we never
>>> smoked."
>>>   
>>
>> Note that I used the phrase "at this point".  I was referring to a 
>> point in time, specifically THIS point in our personal lives.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Then you better change doctors because competent
>>> physicians usually can detect smokers who have
>>> smoked as little as three years fifty years ago.
>>>   
>>
>> I'll stick with my doc, thank you.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> While the body is able to repair much damage caused by smoking to 
>>> internal
>>> organs, some, especially to the lungs is permanent.  Many patients 
>>> have told
>>> me that they do not smoke and I record that information on patient
>>> histories, only to have a Radiologist ask me to ask the patient for 
>>> more
>>> details.  Nine times out of ten, they smoked years ago.  The other 
>>> one in
>>> ten turns out to have been exposed to air borne junk, like mine work or
>>> cotton mill work.
>>> The good part of quitting is that some recovery does take place,
>>> less damage continues to occur and the risk of lung cancer drops.
>>>   
>>
>> I hear what you say.  It may be true that if you dig deep enough, you 
>> might find some evidence.  Sort of like WMD in Iraq.  However, in our 
>> case, the doc measures current lung function and lung capacity, and 
>> we are up to norms.
>>
>>  
>>
>>> The eventual development of emphysema does not go away.  When damage 
>>> occurs
>>> to air sac (aveoli) walls it is permanent...
>>>   
>>
>> That is debatable.  I find it difficult to believe that in as 
>> critical an organ as the lungs there is no repair mechanism - 
>> especially in my observations of my own health.
>>
>> Further, there is some reason to suspect that emphysema has a genetic 
>> component.  If so, I'm pretty well off - my father smoked incessantly 
>> until a person driving over the speed limit killed him at 87.
>>
>> Finally, you should be ashamed of yourself for uttering even a 
>> syllable of discouragement in the presence of someone undertaking the 
>> most difficult task of breaking an addiction.
>>  
>>
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