[Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet

Thu Feb 15 13:28:44 EST 2007

Joe,

I was the one that mentioned the A28.....yes I had an invite but the owner 
sold his boat before I ever had a chance to take him up on his offer. The 
owner is quite wealthy and he can not seem to find a boat that makes him 
happy. In 4 years he has owned a couple of Benetau 30 somethings, a J 80, 
the A 28 and now he has a 30 something C & C with bunch of carbon fiber.

Wally

>From: Joseph Hadzima <josef508 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet
>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:27:12 -0800 (PST)
>
>So based upon your answer to my question I guess the owner
>of the A28 never invited you out for a fun sail.  Pitty,
>had hopes of hearing you tell us about any real differences
>between the A28 & R22.
>
>happy sailing!
>
>
>--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > I know a number of people who single hand 40 foot boats.
> > But the old
> > boating axiom still applies:
> >
> > "Boats will be used in inverse proportion to their
> > length."
> >
> > I literally don't think twice about single handing my
> > boat in any kind
> > of weather.  When the weather gets worse I always go out
> > alone because I
> > don't want to run the risk that someone will make a
> > mistake putting both
> > of our lives in jeopardy.
> >
> > I can and have single-handed larger boats than the Rhodes
> > 22, but I have
> > no reason to do so.  If you're out there by yourself, the
> > Rhodes 22 has
> > everything on it that you need.  And, most people can
> > safely single-hand it.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
> >
> >
> > Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> > > YEP the A28 costs a very pretty penny for a day sailer!
> > >
> > > Did you ever manage to get an invitation to sail on
> > her?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Joe.
> > >>
> > >> There was an A28 slipped at our marina for a couple of
> > >> years. Did you happen
> > >> to catch the price tag? One could spend 150K
> > >> delivered.....tiny cabin but it
> > >> is a looker.
> > >>
> > >> Wally
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> From: Joseph Hadzima <josef508 at yahoo.com>
> > >>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >>>
> > >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>
> > >>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Single handed over 25 feet
> > >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:19:30 -0800 (PST)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Well if money wasn't an issue ... here is a boat over
> > 25
> > >>> feet that is easily single handed.  I got to fondle
> > the
> > >>> tiller at the Annapolis show  ... oooooo sexy!
> > >>>
> > >>>       http://www.alerionexpress28.com/
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW, it is NOT trailer-able :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you think the R27 (a.k.a. GB27) may be looking at
> > the
> > >>> same set of prospects as the Alerion?
> > >>>
> > >>> The R22 is after a different market than the Capri22,
> > >>> Precision 23, crowd, and thus the different price
> > point.
> > >>>
> > >>> having molds to make a hull is one thing, knowing you
> > >>> intended market will help determine what you put into
> > >>>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >>> on top of the hull.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I guess one of the first questions is what is the
> > >>> current R27 Hull designed to do?  Recall design is
> > about
> > >>> trade-offs, and Stan must have an idea which
> > trade-offs
> > >>> were made in this design.  Then a list of possible
> > deck
> > >>>
> > >> &
> > >>
> > >>> rig designs can be generated for the various
> > purposes.
> > >>>
> > >> Is
> > >>
> > >>> this a good race hull, or a cruising hull, .........
> > >>>
> > >>> Then we'll know (I mean have an idea) what CAN be
> > built,
> > >>>
> > >> at
> > >>
> > >>> what cost, and whether there exists a market for this
> > >>>
> > >> type
> > >>
> > >>> of craft.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think a "board" (of directors, investors, nosey
> > >>>
> > >> people,
> > >>
> > >>> etc.) meeting is in required ... complete with
> > beverages
> > >>> and a white board with those cool scented dry erase
> > >>>
> > >> markers
> > >>
> > >>> (I can feel my head spinning now - no need for pot).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Rummy,
> > >>>>    we all know the R22 is delightful to sail
> > >>>> single-handed.   I wonder
> > >>>> at what size of boat does sailing alone become
> > >>>> so more challenging such that its not much fun ...
> > >>>>
> > >> would
> > >>
> > >>>> it be 26'
> > >>>> 27'   30'?   For me, I think a 25' would still
> > >>>> be a lot of fun to sail alone ... I don't know about
> > >>>>
> > >> a
> > >>
> > >>>> 27' boat.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Bud
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dave,
> > >>>>> There are a lot of questions and right now few
> > >>>>>
> > >> answers.
> > >>
> > >>>> The reason to build
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> the R27 would be simple to state because a lot of
> > >>>>>
> > >> R22
> > >>
> > >>>> owners want all the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> goodies that we have become accustomed to in the
> > R22
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> that are not available in
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> any other boat, in totality. Only Stan listens to
> > >>>>>
> > >> his
> > >>
> > >>>> buyers and understands
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> what makes us tick. I would like a larger boat
> > >>>>>
> > >> simply
> > >>
> > >>>> for the amenities, but do
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> not want to give up anything. I sail a lot single
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> handed and want to
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> continue  being able to do so.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Rummy
> > >>>>> __________________________________________________
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>> www.rhodes22.org/list
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> __________________________________________________
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> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
>HADZ (a.k.a. joe)
>
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>and sails. That's what a ship needs. But what a ship is... is freedom."
>-- Captain Jack Sparrow
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