[Rhodes22-list] Environment

Fri Feb 23 07:20:57 EST 2007

Hello 

Does anyone know about what happens when these wonder bulbs
need to be disposed?  Do the chemicals leach into the
acquafur when the bulbs are place in to a land fill?

joe / hadz

--- Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the problems with these is they don't work with
> dimmers.  All of my
> recessed lights are on dimmers that I use all of the
> time, so it is not
> practical to switch.  For regular lamps we have switched.
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> On 2/22/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ok folks, here is a quick and 'clean' thought.  I'm not
> preaching, but we
> > have been switching to these bulbs as the old ones burn
> out.  They aren't
> > cheap, and I don't know where the break-even point is,
> but you feel better
> > and it gives you a certain environ-snobbery arguing
> position.  You can buy
> > them at SamsClub, WalMart, and other eco-friendly
> stores.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > ------------------------
> >
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> > [image: Yahoo! News]<
> >
> http://news.yahoo.com/;_ylt=AltToAxFx686SzI720Fzl69xieAA>
> > Australia to ban old-style light bulbs
> >
> > By ROHAN SULLIVAN, Associated Press WriterTue Feb 20,
> 6:26 PM ET
> >
> > The Australian government on Tuesday announced plans to
> phase out
> > incandescent light bulbs and replace them with more
> energy-efficient
> > compact
> > fluorescent bulbs across the country.
> >
> > Legislation to gradually restrict the sale of the
> old-style bulbs could
> > reduce Australia's greenhouse gas emissions by 4
> million tons by 2012 and
> > cut household power bills by up to 66 percent, said
> Environment Minister
> > Malcolm Turnbull.
> >
> > Australia produced almost 565 million tons of
> greenhouse gases in 2004,
> > official figures show.
> >
> > Prime Minister John Howard said the plan would help all
> Australians play a
> > part in cutting harmful gas emissions: "Here's
> something practical that
> > everybody will participate in."
> >
> > In incandescent light bulbs, perfected for mass use by
> Thomas A. Edison in
> > the late 19th century, electricity flows through a
> filament to create
> > light.
> > Much of the energy, however, is wasted in the form of
> heat.
> >
> > Australia is not the only place looking to replace them
> with fluorescent
> > lighting, which is more efficient and longer lasting.
> >
> > Last month, a California assemblyman announced he would
> propose a bill to
> > ban the use of incandescent bulbs in his state. And a
> New Jersey lawmaker
> > has called for the state to switch to fluorescent
> lighting in government
> > buildings within three years.
> >
> > Cuba's Fidel Castro launched a similar program two
> years ago, sending
> > youth
> > brigades into homes and switching out regular bulbs for
> energy-saving ones
> > to help battle electrical blackouts around the island.
> >
> > The idea was later embraced by Castro's friend and
> ally, Venezuelan
> > President Hugo Chavez, who announced his own program to
> save energy and in
> > recent months has given away millions of fluorescent
> bulbs in
> > neighborhoods
> > nationwide.
> >
> > Under the Australian plan, bulbs that do not comply
> with energy efficiency
> > targets would be gradually banned from sale. Exemptions
> may apply for
> > special needs such as medical lighting and oven lights.
> >
> > Fluorescent bulbs are currently more expensive than
> incandescent bulbs,
> > but
> > use only about 20 percent of the power to produce the
> same amount of light
> > and last longer, making them more competitive over
> time, advocates argue.
> >
> > Environmentalists welcomed the light bulb plan, but
> noted than the vast
> > bulk
> > of Australia's greenhouse gas emissions come from
> industry, such as
> > coal-fired power stations.
> >
> > They urged the government to set national targets for
> emission reductions
> > and renewable energy.
> >
> > "It is a good, positive step. But it is a very small
> step. It needs to be
> > followed through with a lot of different measures,"
> Australian
> > Conservation
> > Foundation spokesman Josh Meadows told Australian
> Broadcasting Corp.
> > radio.
> >
> > Howard has become a global warming convert, conceding
> in recent months for
> > the first time that human activity is having an effect
> on rising
> > temperatures.
> >
> > But he has steadfastly refused to bring Australia into
> line with most of
> > the
> > world and ratify the Kyoto protocol on greenhouse gas
> reductions, arguing
> > that doing so could damage Australia's coal-dependent
> economy.
> >
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HADZ (a.k.a. joe)

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