[Rhodes22-list] Bush Bumper Stickers - Reply to Brad

[Ronald Lipton]

"fellow travellers" ?  Ed, get your mind out of 1954.

Ron
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Brad:

              Nice reply to Bill, however, you addressed your reply only to
Bill.  Look at the other replies on this subject and count the fellow
travelers.  Bill was only the front man on this comment, and as he said
later, was merely copying another’s words.  I used to think that as a known
author and northeast journalist, Bill had the ability to write and erudite.
He seems to strive at proving me wrong.

Again, as in the past, Bill and his followers fail to illustrate points
with facts and supple argument, merely using others’ bombastic language.

On the other hand we now know who wanted prayer rugs for Christmas.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
 Addendum:  The following was written in 1965 during the cold war:

              “It is an interesting coincidence that the characteristics
Soviet leaders would like to develop in their Army – although they have some
reservations about doing so – are just those the American soldier comes by
naturally.  The characteristics which our forces need to strengthen –
physical conditioning, discipline, respect for authority, group as opposed
to individual orientation – are ones the Soviet soldier brings to the Army
because of his schooling and indoctrination.
“For both Russia and the United States – and, on a wider scale, the
Communist and Free World – the characteristics to be improved through
training are at odds with the general outlook to the respective societies.
The Soviets are confronted with a basic problem:  To encourage the necessary
creativity and independence of actions is to run counter to the fundamental
teachings of Communist doctrine.  But discipline and respect for authority
are not unknown to Americans, and a shift in social attitudes could result
in great improvements in the weaknesses in our society that have become so
pronounced …”


Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> *"That's OK, I Wasn't Using My Civil Liberties Anyway"*
>
> Let's just analyze the first one.  Which civil liberties are we talking
> about?
>
> The right to not being stoned for being homosexual?
>
> The right to wear any clothing you want as a woman?
>
> The right to not being killed by your own family if you're gang-raped?
>
> The right to practice your own religion if it is different from the state
> religion, or none?
>
> The right to speak against your government leaders without fear for your
> family?
>
> Whatever perceived restrictions on civil liberty we've experienced under
> W,
> if any, seem pretty mild compared to the alternatives of the enemy.  Or do
> we not have enemies to our civilization? Were they just out for a joy ride
> in a airplane and made a wrong turn?  It happens in Manhattan!
>
> If you can't answer the challenges to the first bumper sticker, the rest
> aren't worthy of a response.
>
> Brad
>
>
> On 12/31/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's OK, I Wasn't Using My Civil Liberties Anyway
>>
>>
>>
>> Let's Fix Democracy in this Country First
>>
>>
>>
>> If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran
>>
>>
>>
>> Bush. Like a Rock. Only Dumber
>>
>>
>>
>> If You Can Read This, You're Not Our President
>>
>>
>>
>> Of Course It Hurts: You're Getting Screwed by an Elephant
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey, Bush Supporters: Embarrassed Yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> George Bush: Creating the Terrorists Our Kids Will Have to Fight
>>
>>
>>
>> America: One Nation, Under Surveillance
>>
>>
>>
>> They Call Him "W" So He Can Spell It
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheney/Satan '08
>>
>>
>>
>> Jail to the Chief
>>
>>
>>
>> No, Seriously, Why Did We Invade Iraq?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bush: God's Way of Proving Intelligent Design is Full Of Shit
>>
>>
>>
>> Bad President! No Banana.
>>
>>
>>
>> We Need a President Who's Fluent In At Least One Language
>>
>>
>>
>> We're Making Enemies Faster Than We Can Kill Them
>>
>>
>>
>> Is It Vietnam Yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bush Doesn't Care About White People, Either
>>
>>
>>
>> Where Are We Going? And Why Are We In This Handbasket?
>>
>>
>>
>> You Elected Him. You Deserve Him.
>>
>> Impeach Cheney First
>>
>>
>>
>> When Bush Took Office, Gas Was $1.46
>>
>>
>>
>> Pray For Impeachment
>>
>>
>>
>> The Republican Party: Our Bridge to the 11th Century
>>
>>
>>
>> What Part of "Bush Lied" Don't You Understand?
>>
>>
>>
>> One Nation Under Clod
>>
>>
>>
>> 2004: Embarrassed
>> 2005: Horrified
>> 2006: Terrified
>>
>>
>>
>> Bush Never Exhaled
>>
>>
>>
>> At Least Nixon Resigned
>>
>> Happy New Year, Ed!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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