[Rhodes22-list] Looking for Owners in New Jersey ?

Mon Jan 8 22:26:44 EST 2007

Dan,
The Escape is too light duty.  The V6 version is rated for 3500-lbs.  If you were to consider an Explorer, give serious consideration to the V8, depending on the configuration, it is good for 6800-7500 lbs towing capacity.  The real truth is that the only time you will see the difference between the 4.0L V6 and the 4.6L V8 is when driving around town, where the volume of the engine itself requires more fuel at idle.  When you are actually using the engine to to pull the weight of the the vehicle, and the tow, it becomes less significant, and your fuel economy might even be better with the V8 because you won't need to go as deep into the throttle to keep up with traffic.  Also, the Explorer (and Expedition) have independent rear suspension, which makes for a less truck-like ride.

Then there is the valid argument that says the longer the wheelbase, the safer the tow.....  F150 Crew-Cabs and Super-Cabs are often well discounted.  As others, have mentioned, if your Gross Combined Vehicle Weight is close to the vehicle's rated capacity, seriously consider adding a transmission oil cooler, if it isn't already installed as a factory option.

If you decide to go for a Ford contact me back channel, I have a couple of unused Friends & Family X-Plan discounts left for 07 Models. 

Dan B 
SV QOL

----- Original Message ----
From: cymruboy <dthomas at chameleon-inc.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 4:10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for Owners in New Jersey ?

Thanks Rob. I'll check what the NJ law is. I'd be driving on flat 95% of the
time and as per you I'd be moving it twice a year as well so may wing it.
How does the gas go on the Cherokee ? I know its better than some of the
SUV's. I am trying to figure out which is the best vehicle that can tow
5,000 Ilbs and still be reasonable on gas. Not an easy task. I was told
about the Ford Escape but not sure if it has a towing package. Dan

Rob Lowe-2 wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> As Peter suggests, you're going to need 5,000 pounds towing capacity. 
> Mine
> is rated at 5,000 pounds.  Make sure to get a vehicle with a built in
> towing
> package.  Most add on hitches don't include the transmission cooler, which
> is really what you need.  As has been discussed on the list, the newer
> boats
> tend to weigh more than the older boats.  I love my Grand Cherokee.  But
> I'm
> a Jeep guy to begin with so I'm biased.  I have a single axle trailer.
> Single vs. double is a matter of individual taste and desires.  Some
> prefer
> the double as it rides better and will survive a flat.  Some prefer the
> single as it's more maneuverable.  My state (VA) requires trailers that
> carry over 3,000 pounds to have brakes on the trailer, but I don't have
> them
> and they don't inspect for them.  I just drive real carefully as my
> vehicle
> has to do all the braking.  But as has been suggested, if I get in an
> accident without the brakes, I'll probably get cited for it.  But then I
> only move my boat twice a year so it's a risk I take.  I towed my boat
> back
> from St. Louis (across West Virginia) and got through the mountains OK,
> but
> I maxed out at 60 mph.
> 
> - rob
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cymruboy" <dthomas at chameleon-inc.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for Owners in New Jersey ?
> 
> 
>>
>> Rob does the 5,000 include trailer I would assume at around 5-600Ibs ? I
> was
>> thinking of the jeep grand cherokee myself. How does that work for you. I
>> would only be on flat runs for the most part in Jersey. I'd also like to
> get
>> a trailer with single axle and no breaks if its doable ? I have had a
>> nice
>> packet from Stan at GB about the boat. I'll have to investigate the
> recycled
>> option I think if not many used boats come up. Thanks for the advice
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob Lowe-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > Dan,
>> > It's hard to find good used ones, although there were several this past
>> > year
>> > which is unusual.  I can think of only one that was listed back in
> October
>> > on this list, don't know if it's still available.  Steve in Florida,
> still
>> > selling your boat?  I've got an older, used, boat.  I know others on
>> the
>> > list would recommend a recycled boat.  It's basically a new boat on an
>> > older
>> > hull.  I assume you've looked at the GB web site?
>> >
>> > http://www.rhodes22.com/
>> >
>> > There are several tow vehicles that would work.  Some of us have vans,
>> > pickups, SUVs (I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee).  Something with a 5,000
>> > pound
>> > towing range is acceptable. - rob
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "cymruboy" <dthomas at chameleon-inc.com>
>> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:29 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for Owners in New Jersey ?
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks Rob. I have done quite a bit of homework and feel the
> Rhodes
>> > 22
>> >> would be ideal for sailing the Barnegat bay area as a day sailer. Also
>> >> may
>> >> be retiring to the Chesapeake in the next ten years. I just need to
>> get
>> > out
>> >> and sail one. I'll also need to replace my VW passat wagon with
> hopefully
>> > a
>> >> mid size SUV if that will do. Was thinking of a Ford Escape but need
>> > advise
>> >> there. It would be ideal not to have too much of a gas guzzler if you
> get
>> > my
>> >> drift and I don't want a truck with three children. Also not sure
>> about
>> >> going with Used versus a recycled boat. I have up to $25,000 and want
> to
>> > go
>> >> the best route. I don't want new and don't want an older model.
> something
>> > in
>> >> between would be ideal. Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob Lowe-2 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Dan,
>> >> > You can find where some of us are located by checking out:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
> http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22#x=-77.89&y=36.56&z=11&t=0&pin=2473192_blue
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like Sheldon Green is right in your backyard.  Not sure if
>> he's
>> >> > still
>> >> > on this list or not, but maybe he'll respond to a message through
>> > Frapper.
>> >> > If not, Jay is right down the road a bit.
>> >> >
>> >> > what are you looking for in a Rhodes?
>> >> >
>> >> > Welcome to the list.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Rob Lowe
>> >> > S/V Getaway
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Daniel Thomas" <dthomas at chameleon-inc.com>
>> >> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:15 PM
>> >> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Looking for Owners in New Jersey ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am new to the forum and in the process of starting my search for
>> a
>> >> > Rhodes
>> >> >> 22 to own in the coming years. I have never sailed one and wondered
>> >> who
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the group resides in New Jersey, especially near Barnegat Bay
> ideally
>> > as
>> >> >> that's the closest place for me. I currently sail at the Nelson
>> >> Sailing
>> >> >> Center at Island heights, but need to get out on a Rhodes 22 to see
> if
>> > I
>> >> >> like it and how it handles.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hopefully hear from a few NJ owners to introduce myself and see if
> you
>> >> > might
>> >> >> be willing to take me out this coming year ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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