[Rhodes22-list] TGGW

[Bud]

Ron,
  thanks for the info!

-Bud

Ronald Lipton wrote:

> Bud,
>
>   The oceans play a huge part in the global climate.  They act as a big
> buffer, absorbing and releasing CO2 and warming and cooling at a lower
> rate then the atmosphere.  Climate models have to get this right if 
> they have
> any chance of modeling temperatures.
>
> Having said that, the energy in an A bomb may seem large, but it is 
> really
> negligible on the scale of the thermal mass of the ocean or atmosphere.
> Hurricanes are much more of an effect than a cause.  One natural 
> phenomenon
> that does have a observable, though temporary, effect are large volcanic
> eruptions.  They throw enough particulate matter into the atmosphere to
> affect the amount of sunlight penetrating the atmosphere.  Climate models
> have used recent eruptions to test the accuracy of their predictions.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud" <budconnor at earthhlink.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] TGGW
>
>
>> How about this as a theory....
>>   the oceans are warmed by the sun, and then give up their energy via 
>> evaporation, transferring
>> that energy as heat to the atmosphere - at some given rate.  Now 
>> suppose hurricanes also convert
>> the ocean's thermal energy to the atmosphere, BUT at a much faster 
>> rate, such that a hurricane
>> significantly contributes  to global warming.  Thus, more tropical 
>> storms (hurricanes/cylones/typhones)
>> equate to a faster warming of the atmosphere. Obviously hurricanes 
>> also convert some of the ocean thermal
>> energy to kinetic energy and damage lots of objects in it's path.  At 
>> one time I had read something
>> that equated the amount of energy released by a hurricane to the 
>> level of an atomic bomb.
>>
>> -Bud
>>
>>
>>
>> Geankoplis wrote:
>>
>>> Energy is never destroyed; it is only converted into other forms.  The
>>> thermal energy of the heat is converted to kinetic energy, or 
>>> transferred to
>>> the atmosphere.  Think of the Hurricane as a package of energy of 
>>> several
>>> types leaking all over the place and trying to reach some sort of
>>> equilibrium by transferring the energy from an area of high thermal 
>>> energy
>>> (tropics) to one of low thermal energy (higher latitudes).
>>>
>>> Chris G
>>>
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>>> Bud,
>>> Hurricanes actually destroy/consume heat energy.
>>> Rummy
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