[Rhodes22-list] Triad Trailers

stan stan at rhodes22.com
Thu Jul 5 15:32:05 EDT 2007 

beginning to look very good - have you been able to come up with a pricing 
that would include exchangeable window panels with the screen panels to make 
it whether proof as needed?

I have some other interested parties.

ss


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Triad Trailers


> Stan,
>
> You communicate this with skill and clarity.  I had an impression, maybe 
> incorrect, that Michael wanted to avoid the delivery costs.  Any of the 
> skippers would just hurt their own interests by undermining GB.  Your 
> continuing support is really appreciated by the fleet.
>
> Well, two enclosures have now shipped - Rob and Isabelle, arrived last 
> week; Rex Henthorn, arriving tommorrow.  I took pictures from every angle 
> and they look good.  Both will install their own snaps - I almost prefer 
> to do this myself - like maybe before they ship from plant.
>
> I have attached two of the pictures for your consumption - one with 
> fabric, one with screens (front and back).  I must admit that the full 
> length concept was your preference from the start, and the installation is 
> really easy and quick.  Isabelle (red hull) chose a blue top, so no chance 
> to make the fashion statement with red or pink Sunbrella topping. 
> Afterall, so patriotic - red hull - white curtains - blue top.  I really 
> want to save the pink for the first Avon guy skipper.  Any takers out 
> there?
>
> I hope you and your's had the best 4th yet!
>
> VR,
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>
>>Sent: Jul 5, 2007 7:05 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Triad Trailers
>>
>>OK, Michael, I take this time, at the expense of others waiting for boats,
>>in all due gratitude for your years of loyalty - and for innocently not
>>being tuned into some business type idiosyncrasies:
>>
>>First of all you should know this letter did not have you in mind as a
>>person but only addressed an ongoing issue of who sets pricing - the owner
>>of the product or the subcontractor who makes that product for the owner.
>>
>>If I sold you a Boat Show package and then gave you list price credit for
>>each item you did not wish to take that came with that package at the that
>>show boat pricing,  and you elected to take off all of the items in the
>>package and get credit for them all,  I would owe you money;  obviously 
>>not
>>the name (or rules ) of the game.
>>
>>Triad has no right to set its own retail figure on our trailers and then
>>sell them at that figure since it does not make that trailer as a stock
>>items and only builds them under contract to us as our product.  Once 
>>Triad
>>tells you what they think should be the list price of that trailer it has
>>advertised that price to the world and boxed us in.  And it does this
>>without even considering what our actual costs may be.  One quick example 
>>of
>>our other costs in setting our own list price:  do you have any idea of 
>>what
>>it costs us to bring each trailer individually to our plant?  I doubt you
>>have considered any of the multiple costs we have to consider in setting 
>>the
>>real selling price of these trailers.  Take my 48 year old word for it 
>>that
>>we have to have the right to set our retail price for each product we have
>>made for us and the amount we may wish, or not wish, to discount this item
>>as part of any of our promotions.
>>
>>As you know, I am the lists number one bleeding heart liberal and would 
>>have
>>given you the trailer or any parts you needed free if you were not in a
>>position to pay for them, but, as founder of the EC Party (Enlightened
>>Capitalists) I also have to reserve the right to set my pricing to make up
>>for my good pro bono work for the overall benefit of sailing-kind.   If 
>>you
>>still do not see the correctness of the above explanations, I would be 
>>happy
>>to take it up further with you after hours.
>>
>>stan/GBI
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:21 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Triad Trailers
>>
>>
>>> Stan,
>>>
>>> I do not understand your position.  I feel that it is unnecessarily 
>>> harsh
>>> and terribly short sighted.  As a long time member of the "Rhodes 
>>> Family"
>>> (I
>>> purchased my R22 in the fall of 1980) I have recommended the design and
>>> YOU
>>> to many current R22 owners and prospects in the past 27 years.  Your
>>> comments seem to discount the GOODWIL and CUSTOMER SUPPORT that most GB
>>> boat
>>> owners are more than happy to provide to others.  I would think that the
>>> future of GB lies in maintaining this alliance in an effort to sell more
>>> R22s, not just replacement parts sold out of the plant.
>>>
>>> My original correspondence with Triad was prompted by a discussion on 
>>> this
>>> email list with Ed (Jan 5, 2007) concerning the purchase of a new 
>>> trailer.
>>> Since I had the quotation and specifications from Triad, I simply passed
>>> it
>>> along, in an open forum, when the topic arose.  If I were to buy a
>>> replacement trailer, it is ridiculous to think that I would travel to NC
>>> to
>>> pick it up, when they are manufactured in CT.  Triad made the point that
>>> they would compensate GB for any sales made with them; case closed - you
>>> get
>>> paid whether the purchase is direct or not.  Where's the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com> Friday, June 29, 2007 8:50 AM
>>>> Trailer buyers:
>>>>
>>>> Please Note:
>>>>
>>>> We are against Triad quoting prices on our trailers or selling them to
>>>> any
>>>> of our owners.  We spent a lot of time and money developing our design
>>>> and
>>>> if Triad quotes our prices or in anyway sells our trailers to Rhodes
>>>> owners,
>>>> we will no longer use Triad as our supplier.
>>>>
>>>> In turn, if any Rhodes owner bypasses GB in obtaining a trailer for a
>>>> Rhodes, we will no longer feel any obligation to consider that owner as
>>>> part
>>>> of the Rhodes family that we go out of our way to help.
>>>>
>>>> If this seems harsh to anyone, try meeting a payroll every week year
>>>> round
>>>> regardless of the ups and downs in this economy.   If you buy the Oil
>>>> companies logic for their pricing, you should certainly appreciate 
>>>> ours.
>>>>
>>>> ss/EC
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>> To: "Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:35 AM
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Triad Trailers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I, too, have had my trailer serviced at the Triad plant.  Several 
>>>>> months
>>>>> ago, I requested information directly from Triad Trailers in CT asking
>>>>> if
>>>>> there was a proper method of purchasing a replacement trailer without
>>>>> going
>>>>> all the way to NC to pick it up, since it is manufactured less than 
>>>>> 100
>>>>> miles from home.  Michael Orro, president of Triad Trailers replied,
>>>>> protecting Stan, (see attached pdf document for full reply, options 
>>>>> and
>>>>> pricing)  as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Technically I am unable to sell the trailer direct however I am going
>>>>> to
>>>>> forward the pricing to you and will allow you to order the trailer
>>>>> direct
>>>>> from us.  I'll work something out with Stan if you happen to purchase 
>>>>> a
>>>>> trailer from us."
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com> Wednesday, June 27, 2007 
>>>>> 9:54
>>>>> PM
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> Curious. Is Stan still selling the custom made "built like a
>>>>>> battleship"
>>>>>> Triad trailers designed for a float on and off Rhodes fin keel. I
>>>>>> bought
>>>>>> one with our boat and about 15 years later trailered it over to the
>>>>>> mfg.
>>>>>> in Waterbury Conn. who made some minor repairs including 1 weld.  The
>>>>>> fender skirts on the trailer had steel like the fenders on my uncle's
>>>>>> '39
>>>>>> Studebaker President.
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