[Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.

[Herb Parsons]

Robert, reread what you just said:

"Bush did not get the most votes - just the electoral college votes"

In the context of my message, Bush got the most votes. That is, the votes they count to decide who's President.

Bush did not get the most popular votes. Nor did he get the most votes from people voting in New York City. But then, neither of those particular counts decides the election. As a matter of fact, we could likely fill up this thread with the different vote counts that DON'T decide the election.

The one vote count that DOES, the electoral college, went to Bush.

I never mentioned the popular vote bud, you brought it up.

Now please, lay off the personal attacks....

(that last one was a bit of dry humor)


Herb Parsons

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>>> Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> 7/11/2007 10:02 PM >>>
Brad -

Note that it is Herb that said, "After all the votes are in,
the man who gets the most votes becomes the President of the 
United States."

I just pointed out that Bush did not get the most votes - just 
the electoral college votes, and that the Electoral College is
an invitation to play games.

Is everyone shooting from the hip here?  This isn't a 
discussion, it's a bar fight, complete with pool cues!

Good night.  I'm outa here.

/Robert

Brad Haslett wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> You know better.  Everyone knew the rules.  If you don't like them, lobby to
> get them changed.  I have mixed emotions about the Electoral College, but
> that is the current game.  If the election were based on the popular vote,
> candidates like Bush would spend more time in big states like California
> mining for total votes (as opposed to electoral votes).
> 
> David,
> 
> What makes you think Herb is opposed to a woman President?  I'm certainly
> not, I'd vote for Condi in a heartbeat.  There are a gazillion reasons not
> to like Hillary.  Her gender is the least among them.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On 7/11/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
> >
> > Herb - that was MY point.  Review your exact words.
> > I know it's a Texas tradition to shoot from the hip,
> > but I expected more from you, even in the heat of a
> > diatribe.
> >
> > Gore got more popular votes.  The electoral college
> > is an artifact of our republican (small "S") framers'
> > thinking, and allows politicians of all stripes to
> > "game" the system.
> >
> > I didn't have a "civics" class.  I read the Federalist
> > Papers in their uncut form during several years of
> > American History classes.
> >
> > Now knock off the personal attacks.  They do not help
> > your arguments -- they weaken them.
> >
> > /Robert
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Herb Parsons wrote:
> > >
> > > Another one who didn't pay attention in civics class. Gore didn't get
> > more votes. It's the electoral college that counts.
> > >
> > > When you lost at little league games, I bet it was the ref's fault too,
> > right?
> > >
> > > Herb Parsons
> > >
> > > S/V O'Jure
> > >   1976 O'Day 25
> > >   Lake Grapevine, N TX
> > >
> > > S/V Reve de Papa
> > >   1971 Coronado 35
> > >   Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> > >
> > > >>> Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> 7/11/2007 8:06 PM >>>
> > > Herb Parsons wrote:
> > > > Rummy,
> > > > You didn't pay attention in civics class... you get to go to
> > > > polls and vote. After all the votes are in, the man who gets
> > > > the most votes becomes the President of the United States...
> > >
> > > So we have Gore as our president?
> > >
> > > Stalin said: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
> > > Those who count the votes decide everything."
> > >
> > > In case you dispute the quote, see:
> > >    http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm 
> > >
> > > If you remember the vote, fear for our democracy...
> > >
> > > /Robert
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