[Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.Enough Already
stan
stan at rhodes22.com
Thu Jul 12 10:18:19 EDT 2007
can't go by me
number one, as Rummy keeps saying, it ain't my list
number two, the extraneous banter is therapy for me when I am having a
strained business day and can jump out of my capitalistic pressure suit for
a few minutes for the fun of adding my 3 cents.
ss
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.Enough Already
> Friends,
>
> Don't you think the content and tone of our R22 site is taking a beating
> with the intensity of the political dialogue? I would really suggest that
> keeping this mostly focused on issues of the Rhodes 22 and the sailing
> sport would be better for the key purpose of our BB.
>
> Stan, I'd suggest your insights on this. I think Alan's well-intentioned
> comments should be a clue that this is working counter to the best
> interests of GB and the future fleet building with this boat we enjoy so
> much. I have enjoyed getting to the skippers in our fleet, some not yet,
> who share my passion for sailing the Rhodes 22. Whether I agree or not
> with our would-be 'politicians', I think this would be more suited for
> another board. If not, guys, why not cool off on the primal instincts and
> re-focus on building our fleet together?
>
> Thanks, Alan, for your candor and for speaking up.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Alan Robertson <bigal_61 at msn.com>
>>Sent: Jul 11, 2007 11:12 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.Enough Already
>>
>>You know I signed up for the Rhodes 22 mailing list at Stan's suggestion a
>>couple of months ago to find out more about new equipment, sailing
>>experiences and how the newer Rhodes have been upgraded since I bought and
>>have sailed mine since '83.
>>Most of the correspondence been on the Site has been political mouthing
>>off - just like the "ding-a-lings who call into the radio talk shows to
>>hear themselves talk, but in case of the Site, to write.
>>Come on Guys - give it a rest!
>>Although I agree with most of the points on Iraq and the Washington
>>Administration, I hate to have to delete 40-50 messages of pure bullshit
>>from my junk mail every day where my Rhodes 22 mail now goes. I have to
>>look at the Junk to see if I recognize the senders who inquire or answer
>>about Rhodes 22 topics on the Site.
>>Their Mail goes into the Rhodes 22 "Keep" file. Topics such as furling
>>mains, travelers, solar panel and installation, spinnakers and whisker
>>poles are valuable and appreciated.
>>The rest of you can go hire a soapbox!!
>>
>>Bigal
>>(A Vet)
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brad Haslett<mailto:flybrad at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bashing Bush is fun.
>>
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> The change I'd like to see is the primaries grouped closer together so
>> states like Iowa and New Hampshire don't have influence well beyond
>> their
>> size. You'd see ethanol hit the skids in the marketplace if every
>> Presidential candidate didn't have to pay homage to the Corn God.
>>
>> Now on other issues - politics does indeed make for strange bedfellows.
>> Wally will be glad to hear that Harold Ford, Jr. will be the likely
>> opposition to Lamar Alexander in TN this fall. I've been writing
>> Alexander
>> every day this week, encouraging him not to go wobbly on Iraq. If he
>> does,
>> I'll throw my support behind Ford. I almost voted for him anyway.
>> There is
>> an element of us conservatives who are ready to take a scorched earth
>> policy
>> on Iraq and it is gaining momentum. No other issue comes anywhere near
>> the
>> importance. Dave can beat his chest all he wants. There may be an "ass
>> whup'n" coming to the GOP and it won't come from the Donkeys.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On 7/11/07, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com<mailto:dwbrad at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Maybe I read Herb's note wrong... I'll let him 'splain.
>> >
>> > For what it's worth, although I think the last election was a farce, I
>> > thought the issues had more to do with Florida election and Supreme
>> Court
>> > irregularities. It seems to me that the electoral college still plays
>> a
>> > useful role in reminding people about the states part of United States
>> of
>> > America, and is a safeguard of the role of the states in our system of
>> > government.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7/11/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com<mailto:flybrad at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Robert,
>> > >
>> > > You know better. Everyone knew the rules. If you don't like them,
>> > lobby
>> > > to
>> > > get them changed. I have mixed emotions about the Electoral
>> College,
>> > but
>> > > that is the current game. If the election were based on the popular
>> > vote,
>> > > candidates like Bush would spend more time in big states like
>> California
>> > > mining for total votes (as opposed to electoral votes).
>> > >
>> > > David,
>> > >
>> > > What makes you think Herb is opposed to a woman President? I'm
>> > certainly
>> > > not, I'd vote for Condi in a heartbeat. There are a gazillion
>> reasons
>> > not
>> > > to like Hillary. Her gender is the least among them.
>> > >
>> > > Brad
>> > >
>> > > On 7/11/07, Robert Skinner
>> <robert at squirrelhaven.com<mailto:robert at squirrelhaven.com>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Herb - that was MY point. Review your exact words.
>> > > > I know it's a Texas tradition to shoot from the hip,
>> > > > but I expected more from you, even in the heat of a
>> > > > diatribe.
>> > > >
>> > > > Gore got more popular votes. The electoral college
>> > > > is an artifact of our republican (small "S") framers'
>> > > > thinking, and allows politicians of all stripes to
>> > > > "game" the system.
>> > > >
>> > > > I didn't have a "civics" class. I read the Federalist
>> > > > Papers in their uncut form during several years of
>> > > > American History classes.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now knock off the personal attacks. They do not help
>> > > > your arguments -- they weaken them.
>> > > >
>> > > > /Robert
>> > > > -----------------------------------------------------
>> > > > Herb Parsons wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Another one who didn't pay attention in civics class. Gore
>> didn't
>> > get
>> > > > more votes. It's the electoral college that counts.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > When you lost at little league games, I bet it was the ref's
>> fault
>> > > too,
>> > > > right?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Herb Parsons
>> > > > >
>> > > > > S/V O'Jure
>> > > > > 1976 O'Day 25
>> > > > > Lake Grapevine, N TX
>> > > > >
>> > > > > S/V Reve de Papa
>> > > > > 1971 Coronado 35
>> > > > > Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >>> Robert Skinner
>> <robert at squirrelhaven.com<mailto:robert at squirrelhaven.com>> 7/11/2007
>> 8:06 PM >>>
>> > > > > Herb Parsons wrote:
>> > > > > > Rummy,
>> > > > > > You didn't pay attention in civics class... you get to go to
>> > > > > > polls and vote. After all the votes are in, the man who gets
>> > > > > > the most votes becomes the President of the United States...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So we have Gore as our president?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Stalin said: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
>> > > > > Those who count the votes decide everything."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > In case you dispute the quote, see:
>> > > > >
>> http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm<http://www.votefraud.org/josef_stalin_vote_fraud_page.htm>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If you remember the vote, fear for our democracy...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > /Robert
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