[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
Bud
budconnor at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 1 06:23:57 EDT 2007
The bags of sand do "conform" to the shape of the ripples in of the
cockpit sole, and the sand has never moved
for me. But I don't consider myself anywhere near an "extreme" Rhodes
sailor. I do like the idea of the
extra protection of keeping the sand bags from sliding out.
-Bud
David Bradley wrote:
>And per the earlier exchange with Elle, the Rubbermaid 44 qt clear plastic
>container will hold your weight, just make it under the seat toward the
>stern, then when you slide if forward it can't slide back out from beneath
>the seat. I can't imagine I'd want 100 # of sand to come crashing across
>the cockpit if I had the port rails in the water...
>
>Dave
>
>
>On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin <roryorkin at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>And have the additional benefit of being available for traction in snow
>>:-)
>>
>>
>>Bud_On_Rhodes wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rory,
>>> two 50# bags of playground sand placed under the starboard cockpit
>>>bench seat (placed forward) will level
>>>your boat out nicely.
>>>
>>>-Bud
>>>
>>>Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder
>>>>
>>>>
>>than
>>
>>
>>>>you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on
>>>>
>>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>>side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Todd Tavares wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>All,
>>>>>I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>are
>>
>>
>>>>>way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>"thru-hull"
>>
>>
>>>>>fittings. The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>swamped
>>
>>
>>>>>during a hard rain. First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
>>>>>keep one drain from getting more water. But the best fix is to go to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>1"
>>
>>
>>>>>or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies). If
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>>>do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
>>>>>your drill to enlarge the holes. Both sides took me about an hour and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>a
>>
>>
>>>>>half, not counting sealer drying time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Todd T.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Orkin"
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>>>>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
>>>>> 2
>>>>> additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
>>>>> holes could
>>>>> be cut for the exact new size.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hank-5 wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
>>>>> find
>>>>> > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
>>>>> out, but
>>>>> > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
>>>>> bevel
>>>>> > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
>>>>> I'll let
>>>>> > you know.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hank
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
>>>>> hose..
>>>>> >> Sounds
>>>>> >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
>>>>> think
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
>>>>> have to
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
>>>>> common
>>>>> >> problem
>>>>> >> than I first thought
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Todd Zumach wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Rory,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> same
>>>>> >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
>>>>> Birch
>>>>> >> > twigs,
>>>>> >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
>>>>> >> mount)
>>>>> >> > but
>>>>> >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
>>>>> being
>>>>> >> too
>>>>> >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
>>>>> standing.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
>>>>> >> > lazzerette
>>>>> >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
>>>>> clear
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
>>>>> bilge was
>>>>> >> > still
>>>>> >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
>>>>> and other
>>>>> >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
>>>>> we had
>>>>> >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
>>>>> pint or
>>>>> >> so
>>>>> >> > in
>>>>> >> > the lazz.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
>>>>> with the
>>>>> >> bow
>>>>> >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
>>>>> there
>>>>> >> > was
>>>>> >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
>>>>> >> chance.
>>>>> >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
>>>>> drains
>>>>> >> a
>>>>> >> > little extra time to flush.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
>>>>> hatch.
>>>>> >> > Let
>>>>> >> > me know what you come up with.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Thanks,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Todd Z.
>>>>> >> > Phillips, WI
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
>>>>> smaller than
>>>>> >> >> the
>>>>> >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
>>>>> I
>>>>> >> would
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Rory,
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
>>>>> it a
>>>>> >> >> little
>>>>> >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
>>>>> plan
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> build
>>>>> >> >> up.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Hank
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
>>>>> only
>>>>> >> >> about
>>>>> >> >> a
>>>>> >> >> >> 1
>>>>> >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
>>>>> there is
>>>>> >> at
>>>>> >> >> >> least
>>>>> >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
>>>>> water
>>>>> >> >> build
>>>>> >> >> >> up
>>>>> >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
>>>>> lazarette.
>>>>> >> This
>>>>> >> >> is
>>>>> >> >> >> why
>>>>> >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
>>>>> hoping that
>>>>> >> >> >> perhaps
>>>>> >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
>>>>> will
>>>>> >> stop
>>>>> >> >> the
>>>>> >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
>>>>> seem to
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> a
>>>>> >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
>>>>> Since
>>>>> >> Rummy
>>>>> >> >> >> says
>>>>> >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
>>>>> that
>>>>> >> could
>>>>> >> >> be
>>>>> >> >> >> the
>>>>> >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
>>>>> >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
>>>>> for the
>>>>> >> >> reply.
>>>>> >> >> >> Rory
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Woten wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Rory,
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
>>>>> dried out
>>>>> >> >> your
>>>>> >> >> >> lazz
>>>>> >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> around
>>>>> >> >> >> just
>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>> >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
>>>>> hard, and
>>>>> >> >> found
>>>>> >> >> >> > water in
>>>>> >> >> >> > your lazz?
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Dave
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > ************************************** See what's free at
>>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.aol.com.
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