[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory

[Todd Tavares]

 All,
I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys are
way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain "thru-hull"
fittings.  The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be swamped
during a hard rain.  First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
keep one drain from getting more water.  But the best fix is to go to 1"
or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies).   If you
do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
your drill to enlarge the holes.  Both sides took me about an hour and a
half, not counting sealer drying time.

Todd T.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Rory Orkin"
  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
  Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)



  Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
  2
  additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
  holes could
  be cut for the exact new size.

  Hank-5 wrote:
  >
  > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
  find
  > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
  out, but
  > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
  bevel
  > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
  I'll let
  > you know.
  >
  > Hank
  >
  >
  > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
  hose..
  >> Sounds
  >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
  think
  >> it
  >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
  have to
  >> be
  >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
  common
  >> problem
  >> than I first thought
  >>
  >> Todd Zumach wrote:
  >> >
  >> > Rory,
  >> >
  >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
  the
  >> same
  >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
  Birch
  >> > twigs,
  >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
  >> mount)
  >> > but
  >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
  being
  >> too
  >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
  standing.
  >> >
  >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
  >> > lazzerette
  >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
  clear
  >> it
  >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
  bilge was
  >> > still
  >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
  and other
  >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
  we had
  >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
  pint or
  >> so
  >> > in
  >> > the lazz.
  >> >
  >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
  with the
  >> bow
  >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
  there
  >> > was
  >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
  >> chance.
  >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
  drains
  >> a
  >> > little extra time to flush.
  >> >
  >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
  hatch.
  >> > Let
  >> > me know what you come up with.
  >> >
  >> > Thanks,
  >> >
  >> > Todd Z.
  >> > Phillips, WI
  >> >
  >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
  smaller than
  >> >> the
  >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
  I
  >> would
  >> >> not
  >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
  >> >>
  >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
  >> >> >
  >> >> > Rory,
  >> >> >
  >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
  it a
  >> >> little
  >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
  plan
  >> to
  >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
  to
  >> build
  >> >> up.
  >> >> >
  >> >> > Hank
  >> >> >
  >> >> >
  >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
  >> >> >>
  >> >> >>
  >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
  only
  >> >> about
  >> >> a
  >> >> >> 1
  >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
  there is
  >> at
  >> >> >> least
  >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
  water
  >> >> build
  >> >> >> up
  >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
  lazarette.
  >> This
  >> >> is
  >> >> >> why
  >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
  hoping that
  >> >> >> perhaps
  >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
  will
  >> stop
  >> >> the
  >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
  seem to
  >> be
  >> a
  >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
  Since
  >> Rummy
  >> >> >> says
  >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
  that
  >> could
  >> >> be
  >> >> >> the
  >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
  >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
  for the
  >> >> reply.
  >> >> >> Rory
  >> >> >>
  >> >> >> Woten wrote:
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> > Rory,
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
  dried out
  >> >> your
  >> >> >> lazz
  >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
  and
  >> around
  >> >> >> just
  >> >> >> > the
  >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
  hard, and
  >> >> found
  >> >> >> > water in
  >> >> >> > your lazz?
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> > Dave
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> >
  >> >> >> > ************************************** See what's free at
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