[Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes

Fri Nov 2 23:02:15 EDT 2007

All,
Anyone familiar with thw Columbia 23' trailable?
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 2, 2007 8:55 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes
>
>PT,
>
>About once a month I find myself price checking Alerion 28's on
>Yachtworld.com, and yup, they're still expensive. They have got to be the
>sexiest and most graceful looking sail boats built.  The single biggest
>drawback for me is that they draw over four feet, nearly as much as mine.
>My home sailing waters would double in size at three feet draft or less.  If
>I could figure out how to install a Hoyt Jib Boom on the S2 I would.  I'm
>thinking more along the lines of "Jed Clampet" engineering - cheap but
>effective.
>
>Brad
>
>On 11/2/07, Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Brad,
>>
>> Self tacking jibs are pretty cool.  You want easy tacking?  Check these
>> out-
>>
>>
>> http://alerionexpress.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/ae20broadband
>> .
>> swf
>>
>> PT
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:16 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes
>>
>> Elle,
>>
>> Your $.02 worth may rule the day. After thinking about it some more I'm
>> loathe to change the original sail plan. The only reason I or anyone else
>> needs to stand while under sail is for me to get to the genoa
>> winches.  They
>> are located forward of the wheel which means for every tack I have to
>> leave
>> the helm if the genny out while single-handing or short-handed, which is
>> always.  Since my home waters is a curving river, I have to tack often.
>> What I've thought about is jury rigging some type of self-tending jib and
>> furl the 135% jenny to 100% and live with the less than optimum sail shape
>> (speed is not a primary concern).  Anyone have a photo of Stan's that I
>> can
>> use to steal his intellectual property?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On 10/31/07, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > my  2¢
>> > You could walk around on your knees...
>> >
>> > Sometimes short has it's advantages...;^)
>> >
>> > elle
>> >
>> > --- Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ok, boys and girls, put your thinking caps on!
>> > > Here's the deal, the sails
>> > > rep I've been visiting with has a 9.2C just like
>> > > mine that he raised the
>> > > boom 10 inches on for better headroom (mine is about
>> > > 5' 11 1/8 inches above
>> > > the cockpit which gives me 1/4 inch to play with
>> > > versus getting whacked
>> > > while standing up).  He also shortened his boom
>> > > length 21 inches which I
>> > > really don't want to do.  He says the boat handles
>> > > better, has less weather
>> > > helm, and the center of effort moves forward.  Other
>> > > than the obvious loss
>> > > of sail area (less than 5% by my calculations) what
>> > > can be anticipated in
>> > > changes of handling characteristics? He (the rep)
>> > > says it moves the center
>> > > of effort forward and the boat is more stable based
>> > > on his experience.
>> > >
>> > > Now this from Stan's site: *Lowering the boom,
>> > > automatically lowers the sail
>> > > inside the mast, which in turn lowers the center of
>> > > effort of the sail,
>> > > therefore increasing the stability of the boat
>> > > without cutting sail area.
>> > > In fact, boat speed actually increases slightly by
>> > > lowering the boom.
>> > >
>> > > *Can we assume then that raising the boom will
>> > > decrease stability and if so
>> > > by what margin?  What is your experience? Loss of
>> > > speed is not an issue with
>> > > me. Everytime I think about these things I get a
>> > > headache.  I'm sure Stan
>> > > could answer this in about 2 seconds but I'm afraid
>> > > he'd want a donation for
>> > > his experience.  That greed thing again.  I'm hoping
>> > > someone can think this
>> > > through and give an informed opinion at a reasonable
>> > > cost.  Like free!
>> > >
>> > > Brad
>> > > *
>> > >
>> > > *
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>> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>> >
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