[Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes

Sat Nov 3 16:53:48 EDT 2007

Robert,

I had that same thought.  Since both ends are hooks, not eyes, how do you
suggest attaching the ends securely, line?  If line, how?

Brad

On 11/3/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>
> John & Brad -
>
> Rather than carrying an extra boom, consider using
> your adjustable whisker pole or boat hook.  The
> forces may be small enough to let it do the job of
> controling the foot of the sail and keeping it fulll.
>
> Every time I turn around, I find another use for my
> boat hook.  It has a lot of extra rings, clips, etc...
>
> /Robert
> --------------------------------
> john Belanger wrote:
> >
> > brad,
> >   being a flyer, you should be able to find some alumunum tubing and a
> pipe bender. why is the tube necessary? the jib is loose footed, only held
> at the clew. why a boom? i'v seen that boom on another type of
> boat....perhaps a one-design racer?
> >
> > Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >   PT,
> >
> > About once a month I find myself price checking Alerion 28's on
> > Yachtworld.com, and yup, they're still expensive. They have got to be
> the
> > sexiest and most graceful looking sail boats built. The single biggest
> > drawback for me is that they draw over four feet, nearly as much as
> mine.
> > My home sailing waters would double in size at three feet draft or less.
> If
> > I could figure out how to install a Hoyt Jib Boom on the S2 I would. I'm
> > thinking more along the lines of "Jed Clampet" engineering - cheap but
> > effective.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On 11/2/07, Peter Thorn
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Brad,
> > >
> > > Self tacking jibs are pretty cool. You want easy tacking? Check these
> > > out-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://alerionexpress.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/ae20broadband
> > > .
> > > swf
> > >
> > > PT
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
> > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:16 AM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes
> > >
> > > Elle,
> > >
> > > Your $.02 worth may rule the day. After thinking about it some more
> I'm
> > > loathe to change the original sail plan. The only reason I or anyone
> else
> > > needs to stand while under sail is for me to get to the genoa
> > > winches. They
> > > are located forward of the wheel which means for every tack I have to
> > > leave
> > > the helm if the genny out while single-handing or short-handed, which
> is
> > > always. Since my home waters is a curving river, I have to tack often.
> > > What I've thought about is jury rigging some type of self-tending jib
> and
> > > furl the 135% jenny to 100% and live with the less than optimum sail
> shape
> > > (speed is not a primary concern). Anyone have a photo of Stan's that I
> > > can
> > > use to steal his intellectual property?
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > On 10/31/07, elle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > my 2¢
> > > > You could walk around on your knees...
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes short has it's advantages...;^)
> > > >
> > > > elle
> > > >
> > > > --- Brad Haslett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, boys and girls, put your thinking caps on!
> > > > > Here's the deal, the sails
> > > > > rep I've been visiting with has a 9.2C just like
> > > > > mine that he raised the
> > > > > boom 10 inches on for better headroom (mine is about
> > > > > 5' 11 1/8 inches above
> > > > > the cockpit which gives me 1/4 inch to play with
> > > > > versus getting whacked
> > > > > while standing up). He also shortened his boom
> > > > > length 21 inches which I
> > > > > really don't want to do. He says the boat handles
> > > > > better, has less weather
> > > > > helm, and the center of effort moves forward. Other
> > > > > than the obvious loss
> > > > > of sail area (less than 5% by my calculations) what
> > > > > can be anticipated in
> > > > > changes of handling characteristics? He (the rep)
> > > > > says it moves the center
> > > > > of effort forward and the boat is more stable based
> > > > > on his experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now this from Stan's site: *Lowering the boom,
> > > > > automatically lowers the sail
> > > > > inside the mast, which in turn lowers the center of
> > > > > effort of the sail,
> > > > > therefore increasing the stability of the boat
> > > > > without cutting sail area.
> > > > > In fact, boat speed actually increases slightly by
> > > > > lowering the boom.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Can we assume then that raising the boom will
> > > > > decrease stability and if so
> > > > > by what margin? What is your experience? Loss of
> > > > > speed is not an issue with
> > > > > me. Everytime I think about these things I get a
> > > > > headache. I'm sure Stan
> > > > > could answer this in about 2 seconds but I'm afraid
> > > > > he'd want a donation for
> > > > > his experience. That greed thing again. I'm hoping
> > > > > someone can think this
> > > > > through and give an informed opinion at a reasonable
> > > > > cost. Like free!
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > > > *
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> > > >
> > > > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our
> sails.
> > > >
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