[Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes

[Steven Alm]

Art,

You should have a hole for the high position of the gooseneck and a low
position where the  boom rides just above the cabin roof with the pop top
down.

Slim

On 11/4/07, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Slim,
> I don't see a hole for the carrier pin to snap into except at 28 1/2".
> Does it just rest atop the Pop Top carrier?
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 3, 2007 3:00 AM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes
> >
> >Art,
> >
> >I put the boom down at about 13-15 if I'm going upwind.  That's when it
> >really counts.  Going down wind it doesn't really matter.  Try it
> sometime.
> >The boat sails quite well with the lowered boom.  The idea is to lower
> the
> >center of effort so you can keep more sail cloth out instead of reefing
> in.
> >Your idea of a midway point is certainly doable but with the infinite
> >reefing capability of the main, two positions of the boom is adequate.
> >
> >Slim
> >
> >On 11/2/07, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Slim,
> >> Good thoughts - my question (never have used the lower boom position) -
> at
> >> what wind velocity would the boom best be in the lower position?  Also,
> if
> >> creature comforts are too compromised at the lowest boom placement, why
> not
> >> add an intermediate hole for the slide to click in, somewhere midway?
> >> Art
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> >> >Sent: Oct 31, 2007 1:57 PM
> >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sail Plan Changes
> >> >
> >> >Brad,
> >> >
> >> >First question, why do you want to change your sail plan?  Is you boat
> >> >handling poorly?  Overpowered?  Too much helm?  When boat
> >> builders/engineers
> >> >come up with the specs for their boats, they've no doubt put in a lot
> of
> >> >time researching and have not made their decisions hastily.  With all
> due
> >> >respect, what makes you think you know better?  Is the rep's boat
> exactly
> >> >like yours?  His is just one opinion.  Try to get a second opinion
> before
> >> >any surgery.
> >> >
> >> >Next, if you have enough head room under the boom, even if it's just
> 1/4
> >> >inch, why do you want to change it?  Just don't stand on your tippy
> toes
> >> >when tacking!  Being able to raise and lower the boom on the R22 is
> great
> >> >feature.  Can you engineer yours so it can be adjustable?  If not then
> I
> >> >wouldn't monkey with it unless you have some serious handling issues.
> >> >
> >> >Yes, lowering the boom lowers the center of effort and reduces
> >> heeling.  And
> >> >vice verse.  But in light winds you want the higher center of
> effort.  So
> >> >the answer to your question is;  It depends on the wind.  I usually
> sail
> >> >with the boom up but I wouldn't call it unstable, that is until the
> wind
> >> >picks up to the point that I'm overpowered and then I make
> adjustments.
> >> >
> >> >Slim
> >> >
> >> >On 10/31/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ok, boys and girls, put your thinking caps on!  Here's the deal, the
> >> sails
> >> >> rep I've been visiting with has a 9.2C just like mine that he raised
> >> the
> >> >> boom 10 inches on for better headroom (mine is about 5' 11 1/8
> inches
> >> >> above
> >> >> the cockpit which gives me 1/4 inch to play with versus getting
> whacked
> >> >> while standing up).  He also shortened his boom length 21 inches
> which
> >> I
> >> >> really don't want to do.  He says the boat handles better, has less
> >> >> weather
> >> >> helm, and the center of effort moves forward.  Other than the
> obvious
> >> loss
> >> >> of sail area (less than 5% by my calculations) what can be
> anticipated
> >> in
> >> >> changes of handling characteristics? He (the rep) says it moves the
> >> center
> >> >> of effort forward and the boat is more stable based on his
> experience.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now this from Stan's site: *Lowering the boom, automatically lowers
> the
> >> >> sail
> >> >> inside the mast, which in turn lowers the center of effort of the
> sail,
> >> >> therefore increasing the stability of the boat without cutting sail
> >> area.
> >> >> In fact, boat speed actually increases slightly by lowering the
> boom.
> >> >>
> >> >> *Can we assume then that raising the boom will decrease stability
> and
> >> if
> >> >> so
> >> >> by what margin?  What is your experience? Loss of speed is not an
> issue
> >> >> with
> >> >> me. Everytime I think about these things I get a headache.  I'm sure
> >> Stan
> >> >> could answer this in about 2 seconds but I'm afraid he'd want a
> >> donation
> >> >> for
> >> >> his experience.  That greed thing again.  I'm hoping someone can
> think
> >> >> this
> >> >> through and give an informed opinion at a reasonable cost.  Like
> free!
> >> >>
> >> >> Brad
> >> >> *
> >> >>
> >> >> *
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