[Rhodes22-list] Brad, Michael T, a reply and a question...

Ron Singerman sail at tds.net
Thu Nov 15 19:42:07 EST 2007


Doyle replacement sails are 5.46 oz. Dacron, both main and Genoa.

>>ron<<

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Michael T, a reply and a question...


> Mike,
>
> Still awaiting an answer from Ed on the weight of the OEM main sail 
> fabric.  The fabric weight can be designated be the Cruising Direct 
> customer, so if 6 of 7 oz fabric is required for either sail, they will 
> make it as requested.  I'm not sure how you will weigh the quality issue 
> Ed suggests, but I understand that both Cruising Direct and Doyle produce 
> sails offshore.
>
> The OEM fabric weight and mass are key boundaries because the sail needs 
> to fit into the mast properly.
>
> FYI, the difference in cost between 5oz and 6oz in the main is negligible, 
> although the longevity is greatly enhanced with 6oz, assuming it fits into 
> the mast.
>
> CD has told me they will not add $ for either sacrificial cloth or a 
> batten slot, if requested.  They apparently do not have the certain 
> dimensions and will need this to produce.
>
> No one has determined the cost from Stan, why not?  He could be the best 
> source overall, probably with the Doyle product.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>Sent: Nov 15, 2007 2:44 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Michael T, a reply and a question...
>>
>>Ed,
>>
>>The Sail Warehouse provides 5.5 oz Dacron mains.  The CruisingDirect main
>>was 6 oz.
>>While I would very much like to find out what makes a good sail for the 
>>R22
>>and how
>>much it will cost should I need new sails, how can you "commend Captain
>>Rummy for
>>recommending ‘The Sail Warehouse’" when Nov 13, 2007 at 09:19pm you 
>>stated:
>>    Rhodies,
>>
>>    Stan demands a high quality fabric.  Yes, that fabric costs more that
>>that quoted from
>>    Cruising Direct.  Keep in mind that some of his sails in use still 
>> have
>>numbers on them.
>>    What is that old addage, you get what you pay for?
>>
>>    You say that you do not want to pay for that extra quality.  Just get
>>caught in blow...
>>    It only has to happen one time.  Newbies need to know that sometimes
>>things happen
>>    very fast.  Of course you may not be around for the reorder.
>>
>>    Most of the lofts have different qualities.  I recall years ago 
>> hearing
>>that the main was 8 oz.
>>    I recall several members of this forum extolling their Lee Sails. 
>> Keep
>>in mind that Stan
>>    shops around, and if he gets messed over, finds someone who meets his
>>quality standard.
>>    Currently that is Doyle.
>>
>>    Also, when was the last time that someone who got new sails from Stan
>>complained that
>>    were wrong size and had to go back for adjustments.
>>
>>What is the truth in these discussions?  Inquiring minds would like a
>>straight answer.
>>
>>Mike
>>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net> Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:27 
>>AM
>>>
>>> Brad & Michael T.
>>>
>>> First, let me commend Captain Rummy for recommending ‘The Sail Warehouse’.
>>> I would encourage Michael T to get ‘The Sail Warehouse’ free catalog. 
>>> It
>>> is
>>> a great primer on sail terminology and how to measure sails.
>>>
>>> If you go the their web site as sited by Captain Rummy you a notice in
>>> red!
>>> The price of Dacron is going up because the price of oil is going up. 
>>> Now
>>> if you listen to our National Government, both political parties
>>> represented
>>> therein, we are told inflation is under control.
>>>
>>> Brad, tell me how that not is a lie?  Tell us how to see thru the fog of
>>> misrepresentation…
>>>
>>> Ed K
>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>> Addendum:  “In the heat of a political lifetime, Ronald Reagan 
>>> innocently
>>> squirreled away tidbits of misinformation and then, sometimes years 
>>> later,
>>> casually dropped them into his public discourse, like gum balls in a
>>> quiche.”   Lucy Howard
>>>
>>>
>>>
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