[Rhodes22-list] Question for Thena

[Brad Haslett]

Hank,

Found the quote from the North Sails website:

"You will be cruising the Baltic and Mediterranean in style with your Dehler
44. With the Dutchman flaking system you will not find any change in the
performance of the main. With laminate sails there is always the concern
about mold spores getting introduced into the sail. The filament lines allow
water to travel down through the sail cover and into the sail and possibly
introduce mildew. Of course there are many other ways that mildew can get
started in a sail so I would recommend having the sails treated with
SailKote Plus made by McLube. Otherwise Dutchman is probably the best
flaking system."

There was also an earlier quote pointing out the downsides of 'stack pack'
systems but now I see North sells an equivalent product.  Maybe they need to
go back and clean up their "advice" section.

The S2 owners list is pretty quiet but I did just get an e-mail from another
9.2C owner who is also a Neil Pryde rep.  He highly recommended the Strong
Track system (about $1000 for my rig).  That will raise another issue.  I
can install a new track without de-masting but my mast badly needs
repainting. It doesn't make sense to install new hardware without going
through the pain and expense of painting prior to upgrade.  Life is sure
simpler when you can do repairs in the backyard.

Brad

On 10/29/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think I had full battens and I know I did not have any issues with
> staining.  Are you trying to suggest that a salesman for one product might
> actually tell an untruth about a competitor's product?  Say it isn't so!
>
> Hank
>
>
> On 10/29/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hank,
> >
> > Did you have full battens?  I understand that makes it easier to flake
> as
> > well.  The only downside to the dutchman system I've read about is that
> > moisture runs down the lines and eventually stains the sails.  Did you
> > have
> > that experience?  Come to think of it, whoever  stated that was selling
> > another system.  The stack system with the integral cover looks
> attractive
> > as well but at what cost I don't know.  If I go with a new track or luff
> > car
> > system, the stack may be too high for my current cover.  This ain't
> gonna
> > be
> > cheap any way you slice it.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On 10/29/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brad,
> > >
> > > I had a dutchman system on my Islander 36 and I absolutely loved it!
> > > Flaking the main was soooo easy and it didn't fall off the boom as you
> > > flaked it.
> > >
> > > Hank
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/29/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thena,
> > > >
> > > > I found the guys in Ocean Springs and Biloxi and intend to visit
> with
> > > them
> > > > today.  Chris Rooke at Rooke Sails has repaired my main before but
> I'm
> > > > pretty sure he doesn't have a full blown loft.  He's right by the
> > > airport
> > > > so
> > > > I'll visit with him tomorrow on the way to work.  We have no plans
> to
> > > sell
> > > > the boat but Fan convinced me that installing an aftermarket
> > > > behind-the-mast
> > > > furler would make the boat an odd duck and more difficult to
> > sell.  She
> > > > know's little about sailing but I think she's probably right about
> > this
> > > > issue.  I do need to address the luff track binding which will only
> > get
> > > > worse if I go with full battens.  That needs to be discussed with
> the
> > > > sailmaker and a decision made to go with battslides, one of the new
> > mast
> > > > tracks, or just an upgrade in slides, perhaps Allslides.  My goal is
> > not
> > > > to
> > > > spend more than 10% of the value of the boat replacing just the
> main,
> > > and
> > > > that would be easy to do if you get carried away with
> > upgrades.  Another
> > > > issue that it's time to address is to choose between a dutchman
> > flaking
> > > > system, or lazy jacks, or a Doyle Stack/Mack Stack system - or
> > > > nothing.  Too
> > > > many choices and they all cost $$.
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > > On 10/28/07, Thena <thenacarville at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > > I know these guys and like them both, but when I searched, there
> was
> > a
> > > > > listing for someone called Rooke Sails on Prescott Street in
> > > > Memphis...and
> > > > > a
> > > > > listing for someone in Ocean Springs and one in Biloxi...no idea
> how
> > > > good
> > > > > or
> > > > > reliable they are, but they are listed...also don't know if they
> are
> > > > still
> > > > > in business...
> > > > > Thena
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> > Haslett
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:53 PM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Thena
> > > > >
> > > > > Thena,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, neither one showed-up on my original web research but I
> > found
> > > > > their
> > > > > phone numbers after a specific Google search and will place some
> > calls
> > > > > tomorrow.  If you think of some more let me know.  There isn't a
> > loft
> > > > > within
> > > > > 300 miles of Memphis that I know of so I may as well use someone
> on
> > > the
> > > > > Gulf
> > > > > where I visit frequently.  They could probably use the business.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/28/07, Thena <thenacarville at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, as a matter of fact I do...both are very small lofts
> > affiliated
> > > > > with
> > > > > > known names...Sobstadt is Chris Schramel and North Sails is Benz
> > > > > > Faget...know and like them both...use them both... been sailing
> > and
> > > > > > drinking
> > > > > > with them for many years...there is another small loft, but I
> > don't
> > > > know
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > guy...could find out about him if you want......
> > > > > > Thena
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> > > Haslett
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:21 PM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Thena
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thena,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know of some sail lofts in your area?  I've found a a
> small
> > > one
> > > > > > near
> > > > > > Biloxi, Ulman has one in Mandeville, and Banks has one near
> > NO.  I'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do business with someone on the Gulf Coast, the smaller the
> > > > better.  Any
> > > > > > suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
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