[Rhodes22-list] A Very Blustery Day!

[Steven Alm]

The advantages of the big 175 is that in light air you can still keep the
boat moving, but in really light air it tends to hang like a big drape and
it's hard to tack.  When you're going down wind it's almost like having a
spinnaker.  The problems come when you're heavily reefed.  First is the sail
shape, which can be remedied by adding a luff pad.  The other problem is
when you reef a 175 way in, you get a big sausage roll at the luff which
inhibits a smooth air flow across the sail.  If you're sailing in 15 to 20
knots of wind, the 135 will be much better than the 175.  Particularly if
you're racing and every little bit helps.  But if you're just pleasure
sailing I think the versatility of the 175 with a luff pad is still best.

Slim

On 10/31/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> I think what Art is saying is that the 175 is too much sail in strong
> winds
> and loses too much sail shape (Read efficiency) when furled to work well
> in
> strong winds.
>
> Am I correct, Art?
>
> Hank
>
>
> On 10/31/07, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Art,
> >
> > Having sailed with you, I'll readily admit that you put the Art in the
> > art of seamanship.  So explain to me the problem with the 175.  Is it
> > that the sail shape spills too much wind at the foot?  It just doesn't
> > seem like there would be a significant improvement with a furling 155 or
> > 135.  If you run the genoa sheets on the deck or cabin top so the
> > shrouds don't get in the way, won't the foot of the 175 be just as tight
> > as a smaller furling sail?
> >
> > I have more problems with the weight of the 175 in light winds, but even
> > then the unfurled portion doesn't weigh any more than a smaller sail of
> > the same size.
> >
> > The biggest problem I have with the 175 is that I don't have enough
> > sense to reef it when the winds get too gusty, but scary is fun when
> > it's safe.  Kind of like Halloween.
> >
> > Don't eat too much candy tonight--we both already have enough rail meat!
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arthur H. Czerwonky [mailto:czerwonky at earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:11 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A Very Blustery Day!
> >
> > Hank,
> > There are more than a few of us that have brought up the tacking
> > difficulty in higher winds.  More and more I am persuaded that the 175,
> > even well reefed, may not be as good a choice as a 155, even 135 as a
> > 'universal' sail.
> > Art
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
> > >Sent: Oct 29, 2007 1:29 PM
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A Very Blustery Day!
> > >
> > >Lee,
> > >
> > >I'm not surprised that the winds hit 30 because I really felt some
> > strong
> > >gusts out there.  There was one point where I couldn't tack as the
> > waves
> > >slowed me down too much trying come across and I couldn't gybe because
> > >weather helm kept bringing me up.  I finally had to release the Jib
> > some to
> > >let the wind pull me down onto a gybe.  It certainly test my seamanship
> > and
> > >sailing skills.  Never felt out of control though and certainly have a
> > lot
> > >more confidence in the boat now.
> > >
> > >Hank
> > >
> > >
> > >On 10/29/07, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hank,
> > >>
> > >> You da man!  I checked the current wind condition on Weatherbug
> > yesterday
> > >> and it was over 30 mph.  Half of me wanted to go out to improve my
> > heavy
> > >> wind sailing ability and half of me thought it would be more work
> > than
> > >> fun,
> > >> espcially getting in and out of the slip.  The lazy half won as it
> > usually
> > >> does.
> > >>
> > >> Instead of retiring to the couch next time, I'll call you for a pep
> > talk.
> > >>
> > >> Lee
> > >> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> > >> Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hank-5 wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Good Morning Rhodies,
> > >> >
> > >> > Well, yesterday I took my two kids, Charlie (8) and Andrea (7), out
> > for
> > >> a
> > >> > nice sail and the forecasted winds of 12-14 knots were more like
> > 20-25
> > >> > knots!  Started off with the boom in the lower position and about
> > 75% of
> > >> > the
> > >> > main and 75% of the Jib.  A couple of buried rails later dropped to
> > 50%
> > >> > main
> > >> > and 50% jib and then we were just fine.  Had a great time although
> > a bit
> > >> > chilly, temps in the high 50s/low 60s, but the sun was out.
> > >> >
> > >> > The kids had a great time although Andrea did freak out a little
> > when we
> > >> > buried the rail so far that water came over the coaming into the
> > >> cockpit!
> > >> >
> > >> > Have a great day!
> > >> >
> > >> > Hank
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