[Rhodes22-list] teachers - Chris?
Brad Haslett
flybrad at gmail.com
Sun Sep 2 17:00:24 EDT 2007
Slim,
Shanghai is out of my 'zone of experience' in China but I do know it is even
more Westernized than Beijing with a much larger ex-pat community. I've
spent some time at some of the "English" and ex-pat bars in Beijing (though
not as much as I'd like to because of Fan's influence). Having seen your
act, I'd think it would be a huge hit in places like Beijing, Dalian,
Qingdao, and especially Shanghai.
Brad
On 9/2/07, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Sorry to take so long to get back to you. No, nothing yet in China. But
> I'm still in close contact with my good friend/musician in Shanghai. He's
> got so many gigs that he's turning down work left and right. His
> suggestion
> is to simply show up and go around and try to meet people and scare up
> some
> gigs. That sounds a little scary to me. I don't want to go half way
> around
> the world without knowing I've got something solid to count on. My
> sing-along approach is not the typical lounge thing. My buddy over there
> is
> a gifted jazz guitarist who can fit in almost anywhere. There are a ton
> of
> regular jazz combos. My thing is more specialized with much narrower
> opportunity. Google "Dueling Pianos" and you'll get an idea of what it's
> like.
>
> Slim
>
> On 8/28/07, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Slim, did you ever get anything going in China?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/07, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hank, Elle, and other east coasters,
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry but I have no plans to get out there. Not that I wouldn't want
> to
> > > but
> > > my contacts and agents don't have any clubs out there that they
> > book. I'm
> > > mostly midwest these days. But thanks for asking.
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
> > > On 8/28/07, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Richmond?
> > > >
> > > > elle
> > > >
> > > > Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote: Hey Slim,
> > > >
> > > > Do you ever play anywhere near DC? I'd love to catch you show.
> > > >
> > > > Hank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/28/07, Steven Alm wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure what I teach is Music Appreciation for the simple
> fact
> > > that
> > > > > my
> > > > > show is mostly request-driven. I don't cram anything down their
> > > throats
> > > > > that they didn't ask for. What I do teach, though, is
> > singing. Since
> > > > the
> > > > > requests are for songs that everybody knows, my sing-along
> approach
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > same as that of the choir director:
> > > > >
> > > > > "I know you can do better than that... Let's try it again but
> this
> > > time
> > > > > sing LOUDER!"
> > > > >
> > > > > I stand up and wave my arms like the conductor and bring the music
> > out
> > > > of
> > > > > them. No matter how many times I've done it, it still gives me
> > goose
> > > > > bumps
> > > > > when I can get a room of 200 people to sing the chorus of "Bye,
> Bye,
> > > > Miss
> > > > > American Pie" at the top of their drunken lungs.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, drunks and children have a lot in common. You have to pace
> > your
> > > > > presentation carefully, you always have to give them something to
> > do,
> > > > you
> > > > > have to challenge them, you have to reward them and there's always
> a
> > > > > couple
> > > > > trouble-makers out there you have to deal with.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even the songs themselves (curricula) are the same. If you set it
> > up
> > > > > right,
> > > > > drunk adults will love "The Wheels On The Bus Go 'Round And
> > > > 'Round." And
> > > > > the hand gestures are key--just like doing it with kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > "The wipers on the bus go swish, swish, swish..."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The door on the bus goes open and shut, open and shut, open and
> > > > shut..."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The mommies on the bus go shh, shh, shh..."
> > > > >
> > > > > But then of course I put an adult twist:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The driver on the bus goes, HEY, SHUT UP YOU LITTLE BASTARDS! I
> > GOT
> > > A
> > > > > JOB
> > > > > TO DO HERE SO FUCK YOU! I'M GONNA KICK YOUR SORRY LITTLE ASSES
> OFF
> > > THIS
> > > > > BUS. GET THE HELL OUTA HERE! AND YOUR PARENTS ARE GONNA GROUND
> YOU
> > > AND
> > > > I
> > > > > DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF YOU HAVE TO WALK TO SCHOOL FOR THE REST OF
> YOUR
> > > > > LITTLE
> > > > > FUCKING LIVES AND THE PRINCIPAL CAN KISS MY ASS........." 8-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Slim, Bart Simpson thinks I'm a great singing teacher.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/27/07, Geankoplis wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Brad,
> > > > > > For sharing your luck with the teachers you got
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > luck
> > > > > > you made! They wanted to suspend my kid for skipping his last
> two
> > > > > classes
> > > > > > each day at H.S. so he could ride the bus to the university and
> > > audit
> > > > > > ceramics classes under an assumed name. I let him finish up his
> > > last
> > > > > half
> > > > > > of his senior year in night school so he could go full time to
> > > > something
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > loved. Now both of you are doing what you love (though you do
> > make
> > > > the
> > > > > > bucks) and are happy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris Geankoplis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> > > Haslett
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 3:29 AM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] teachers - Chris?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elle & Slim,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe I got really lucky but I had almost a handful of very
> > > dedicated
> > > > > and
> > > > > > proficient teachers in the very tiny public school I
> attended. MY
> > > HS
> > > > > > science teacher was the one who inspired me to learn to fly
> > between
> > > my
> > > > > > Freshman and Sophomore year. I remain friends with my HS
> guidance
> > > > > > counselor
> > > > > > and share e-mails weekly. I was so bored my Senior year I
> > convinced
> > > > the
> > > > > > school board to allow me to drive my own car to the county
> > > vocational
> > > > > > school
> > > > > > to attend Distributive Ed. My DE instructor knew I working on
> an
> > > > > Airframe
> > > > > > and Powerplant apprenticeship so he didn't require me to attend
> > > class,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > enabled me to drive straight to the airport and work. That
> later
> > > > caused
> > > > > > some problems when my Principal visited the vocational school
> one
> > > day
> > > > > and
> > > > > > found out I didn't attend class. He suspended me for three
> days,
> > > > which
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > hardly any punishment. I later got suspended again, this time
> > > perhaps
> > > > > > justly, for buzzing an afternoon PE class at my HS low enough to
> > > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > coach and his students lying face down in the dirt. Then I got
> > > > expelled
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > taking off for three days on a flying expedition. The Illinois
> > > State
> > > > > > Board
> > > > > > of Education put the fear of God in me that I needed to beg my
> way
> > > > back
> > > > > in
> > > > > > school (only two months to go) and failed to mention that my
> > college
> > > > > > entrance exam scores were high enough to not even bother with
> > > > graduating
> > > > > > from HS. My boss came up with a better idea - we blackmailed
> two
> > > > school
> > > > > > board members for some of their extra-curricular activities and
> > they
> > > > did
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > bidding for me. By the time I did start college I had been on
> my
> > > own
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > while and was paying my own way. I didn't tolerate BS from
> > college
> > > > > > professors and they sensed that. Fortunately, the last 2 1/2
> > years
> > > I
> > > > > > attended the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, an adult
> > > oriented
> > > > > > commuter school with a much higher than normal average student
> > body
> > > > > > age. My
> > > > > > oldest son is attending there now, working on a second undergrad
> > > > degree
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Construction Management since his first degree in partying at
> the
> > U
> > > of
> > > > A
> > > > > > Fayetteville hasn't yielded too many job offers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I love teaching but I doubt I'd last two days in the public
> school
> > > > > > environment. The first time little Johnny's Dad came to
> complain
> > > > about
> > > > > > something I'd rip his head off as well. My hat goes off to
> anyone
> > > to
> > > > > can
> > > > > > survive those conditions. Both of my sons attended Catholic
> Boys
> > > high
> > > > > > schools where parental input and interference was greeted by
> > > throwing
> > > > > your
> > > > > > little precious out. Frankly, I liked that - spared me
> listening
> > to
> > > a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > > of whining.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/23/07, elle wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Methinks your teachers may have had the same
> > > > > > > impression of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Three months off? that would be between mid-June when
> > > > > > > school is out and mid -August when teachers return?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How would you like working 12-14 hr days 6 days /wk?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Walk a mile, bud, before you speak of what you do not
> > > > > > > know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Needing more rejuvenation...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > .elle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Just bent wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the 12 years of public schools, I probably have
> > > > > > > > had about 35 different
> > > > > > > > teachers. I can't think of 1 that impressed me even
> > > > > > > > a little bit. They all
> > > > > > > > seemed to be on a power trip. I think they have one
> > > > > > > > of the best jobs, 3
> > > > > > > > months off every year. Great for planning long
> > > > > > > > vacations. I was going to be
> > > > > > > > a teacher but circumstances required plan B, get
> > > > > > > > married & have kids, (but
> > > > > > > > not in that order.) I've trained many adults, I
> > > > > > > > don't think that's anything
> > > > > > > > like trying to teach children. I agree, a very noble
> > > > > > > > profession but I think
> > > > > > > > it is abused by many, mostly in higher education.
> > > > > > > > Jb
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Slim,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll throw my hat in the ring! If I had to choose
> > > > > > > > any single point in my
> > > > > > > > > career as the best moment, it would be one while
> > > > > > > > instructing. I had the
> > > > > > > > > pleasure of enduring an "education" class a few
> > > > > > > > years ago taught by a "no
> > > > > > > > > shit" General in the Airforce" and a Phd. in
> > > > > > > > Education. He was "known" as
> > > > > > > > > the asshole on campus but it was one of the
> > > > > > > > richest days of learning in my
> > > > > > > > > career. You know the old expression, "those who
> > > > > > > > can, do, and those who
> > > > > > > > > can't, teach?" He fully debunked that theory.
> > > > > > > > If I have to choose
> > > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > 'pilot' or 'teacher' on my tombstone, give me the
> > > > > > > > teacher label. What a
> > > > > > > > > noble profession!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brad
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/23/07, Steven Alm
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Ed,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> You mean to tell me that just because I have a
> > > > > > > > garage and some wrenches
> > > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > > >> does not make me a mechanic? 8-)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Slim, former teacher, husband of teacher, brother
> > > > > > > > of teacher, son of two
> > > > > > > > >> teachers
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On 8/23/07, Tootle wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Chris,
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Why the narrow point of view? Teachers? Has
> > > > > > > > Stan taught us about
> > > > > > > > >> > sailboats? sailing? You best include this
> > > > > > > > forums premire teacher don't
> > > > > > > > >> > you
> > > > > > > > >> > think? And another problem, because someone
> > > > > > > > has title teacher does not
> > > > > > > > >> > make
> > > > > > > > >> > that person a teacher.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Ed K
> > > > > > > > >> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > > > > > > >> > addendum: "The reasonable man adapts himself
> > > > > > > > to the world; the
> > > > > > > > >> > unreasonable
> > > > > > > > >> > one persists in trying to adapt the world to
> > > > > > > > himself. Therefore all
> > > > > > > > >> > progress
> > > > > > > > >> > depends on the unreasonable man." --George
> > > > > > > > Bernard Shaw
> > > > > > > > >> >
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> > > > > > > > >> >
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