[Rhodes22-list] Business Plan
stan
stan at rhodes22.com
Tue Apr 1 11:45:33 EDT 2008
Well we did get one out of two right - not bad for a half wit.
ss
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Business Plan
> Stan,
>
> I am surprised at YOUR lack of imagination. Just bundle the COST of the
> optional equipment into the standard price and you can afford to give away
> the optional equipment (although you will not pocket the markup.) This is
> a
> tried and true practice in many niche product industries. The trick is to
> provide a product without equal, so that your market must buy from you (I
> think that this is already established for GBI.) Then, all it takes is a
> really good salesman (and banker) to enable the customer to buy it. You
> have already tried the alternative process - to sell for years at a loss
> or
> small profit until most of your competitors go out of business.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:08 AM
>> and I would be a buyer instead of a seller
>>
>> but your creativity does qualify you to work for GBI
>>
>> ss
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>>
>>
>>> Stan,
>>> Here's a better solution, just give all the optional equipment away
>>> free.
>>> That certainly would make the R22 a better value.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 4/1/2008 8:07:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> stan at rhodes22.com writes:
>>>
>>> In defense of GB's stance on options - Rose will tell you I am never
>>> wrong
>>> (or at least that I never admit I am wrong)
>>>
>>> You have to understand the options position from the selling side of
>>> the
>>> field. Buyers come to us with budgets. Perhaps they do not expect us
>>> to
>>> take them seriously but we do. If you can afford the best way to go
>>> with
>>> everything, we are for it. What we have to avoid, for the well being
>>> of
>>> both buyer and seller, is the buyer wanting everything and pricing him
>>> or
>>> herself out of being able to afford a Rhodes, costing GB a sale and the
>>> List
>>> a new member; a lose, lose, lose option.
>>>
>>> ss, op (optional salesman)
>>>
>>> all apologies accepted
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Bickerstaff" <tabick at mchsi.com>
>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks, PT
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Thorn
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:25 PM
>>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Three years ago an experienced delivery Captain and his young crew
>>>> perished
>>>> in the Neuse River while delivering a new 35' boat to the Miami boat
>>>> show.
>>>> The Coast Guard station at Cherry Point was only 5 miles away, but all
>>>> they
>>>> had on board was a hand-held VHF. The investigation afterwards
>>>> revealed
>>>> the
>>>> Coast Guard could not hear the weaker signal from their hand-held VHF
>>>> to
>>>> pin
>>>> point their location. Had they a fixed mount VHF with a (higher) mast
>>>> mounted antenna, they might be alive today.
>>>>
>>>> Tom, I would rethink that built-in antenna.
>>>>
>>>> PT
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:02 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electronics
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>> I am one of the people that disagrees with Stan and Lee on the VHF.
>>>> It may depend somewhat on your situation. We sail on the Chesapeake
>>>> where there are a lot of other boaters. If some issues a Mayday, a
>>>> Pan-pan or Securite call they do that over VHF. If you need to issue
>>>> a Mayday and you call the Coast Guard on your cell phone they will
>>>> hear you but other boaters in the area (who may be much closer than
>>>> the CG) will not. You may not need to deal with bridges or commercial
>>>> shipping. We do and I find it easier to call a bridge tender on VHF.
>>>> You can call them on the phone but you need to have a separate number
>>>> for each bridge. You generally cannot contact the bridge of a
>>>> commerical vessel by cell but you can with VHF. A handheld will work.
>>>> We used one for years before adding the masthead antenna because we
>>>> liked the added range - particularly for picking up messages from
>>>> other people with handhelds. And as Lee said you can use it for
>>>> weather forecasts. That said if we are on the Bay on a busy weekend,
>>>> the radio is usually off unless we need it. There is just too much
>>>> traffic.
>>>>
>>>> We use a transom mount type fishfinder for depth (not permanently
>>>> mounted) and a bulkhead compass mounted on a board in the
>>>> companionway. We seem to have have an unreasonable aversion to
>>>> cutting holes in the boat.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 02:26 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>>I might want to take you up on sailing the Big Assawoman. The
>>>>>invitation
>>>> is
>>>>>also open for Kent Island if you want to get some Rhodes sailing
>>>>>before
>>>> your
>>>>>boat arrives.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lost of people will disagree, but I'd take Stan's advice on the VHF.
>>>>>I
>>>> have
>>>>>a cheap handheld and only use it for weather forecasts. Once I used
>>>>>it
>>>>>to
>>>>>call the Coast Guard and they told me to call back on my cell phone.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regarding your questions, I posted this about a year ago:
>>>>>
>>>>>"I had Stan install a Plastismo Contest 101 in my portside bulkhead.
>>>>>West
>>>>>Marine's list price is $215, but they'll normally match any Internet
>>>>>price
>>>>>you can find. I think they sold it to me for about $135 to $140. I
>>>>>like
>>>> it
>>>>>because it's two-sided so you can read it from inside the cabin. I
>>>>>often
>>>>>lock the tiller and go below to lay down on the settee, not that I'm
>>>>>lazy
>>>> or
>>>>>anything. It's nice to be able to see the compass to ensure you don't
>>>>>go
>>>>>off course.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stan and others will tell you that a depth finder (fish finder) isn't
>>>>>necessary because your centerboard and rudder will tell you when it
>>>>>gets
>>>> too
>>>>>shallow. This is proof that even Stan isn't right all the time. Ask
>>>>>Rose.
>>>>>I use my fish finder all the time. Even if you don't damage your
>>>>>centerboard and rudder by dragging them on the bottom, you'll
>>>>>certainly
>>>>>knock the bottom paint off of them. I like to sail close to shore,
>>>>>and
>>>> it's
>>>>>nice to know when it starts getting shallow. I had Stan install a
>>>>>Humminbird Matrix 17 with the temperature/speed accessory on the
>>>>>starboard
>>>>>side bulkhead. It was about $100. You'll need transducer paint to
>>>>>keep
>>>> the
>>>>>speed wheel turning, and even then it's nowhere nearly as accurate as
>>>>>a
>>>> GPS.
>>>>>It will let you know if you're speeding up or slowing down to help you
>>>>>trim
>>>>>your sails. (Tom: Don't get a speedwheel. Even with transducer
>>>>>paint
>>>>>it
>>>>>will get marine growth in no time at all.)
>>>>>
>>>>>It cost more to install the instruments than to purchase them, but
>>>>>Stan's
>>>>>crew did an excellent job. I'm way overpaid and totally inept, so it
>>>>>would
>>>>>have cost me much more to do it myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't ventured far from the marina and normally try to get in
>>>>>before
>>>>>dark, so I thought a GPS would be more of a toy than something I
>>>>>really
>>>>>needed, but I would definitely recommend at least getting a cheap
>>>>>handheld
>>>>>for safety. I use mine to check my speed more than anything else. I
>>>>>have
>>>> a
>>>>>Garmin C276, but it mostly depends on how much money you want to
>>>>>spend.
>>>>>Paper charts are still easier to read. I absolutely recommend that
>>>>>you
>>>>>do
>>>>>not purchase a Magellan GPS. I had nothing but nightmares with that
>>>> company
>>>>>(except that nightmares stop when you wake up).
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck with your choices!"
>>>>>
>>>>>Lee
>>>>>1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>>>>>Kent Island, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>___________________________________________________________________________
>>>> ______________
>>>>>
>>>>> >From Tom:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought I had a name picked out ("Mischief II") for the 1999 R22
>>>>>that
>>>> Stan
>>>>>is recycling for me even as I write. But since the hull will be navy
>>>>>and
>>>>>since I'm "forever in Blue Jeans" that are baggy and worn at the
>>>>>knees,
>>>>>my
>>>>>wife suggested "Rag Bag" or "Blue Jeans". It will be one of the
>>>>>three.
>>>>>Stan has me talked out of a mast antenna and a cockpit-mounted VHF,
>>>>>since
>>>>>GPS and cell phones work great for communicating these days.
>>>>>
>>>>>At any rate, since I'll be sailing mostly in the Big Assawoman Bay
>>>>>(BAB),
>>>>>which is extremely shallow in spots and tends to shoal a bit, I'm
>>>>>still
>>>>>inclined to go with a depth gauge. And I'm also inclined to install
>>>>>a
>>>>>wall-mounted compass in the cockpit area. Does anyone have any
>>>>>thoughts
>>>>>on
>>>>>brands to look for / stay away from?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom Bickerstaff ("Bick")
>>>>>
>>>>>P.S. I should be "up and running" by the end of June, so if anybody
>>>>>finds
>>>>>him/herself near Ocean City, MD and wants to check out the BAB, just
>>>>>let
>>>>>me
>>>>>know.
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>>>>>
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