[Rhodes22-list] Captain Haslett, those that need to be reading these comments lack the fortitude (Non Sailing)(Big Al, you may delete)(May be considered Political by fellow travelers)(

Tue Apr 15 08:44:06 EDT 2008

Brad,

Unfortunately, those that would benefit from reading these comments just
lack the courage...  Or are so ideologic that they deny their view may be
anti American… They believe because the government has mistakenly created
programs in the past that more programs are o.k.  They claim fiscal
responsibility except they are willing to use the power of government to
compel all to give to their charity. They are so driven to support their
scientific research that they do not ask for appropriate financial
justification. 

They claim that the ‘government’ has funded this type research or similar
program in the past.  Never do they evaluate the effectiveness of past
programs.  Nor do they present good reasoned arguments for using the power
of government to take from all to pay for their pet project or program.

They put aside the fact that America was founded on Capitalism and Freedom
not Marxism, Socialism, or Communism.  They are the fellow travelers among
us.

I have yet to see where this guy is toast.  I think he is Elmer Gantry or
Jim Baker reincarnated. I see him leading his flock of sheep to Armageddon. 
He has castrated the males so that he has no challengers for the ewes. 
Remember in your posts the eunuchs among us.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

Ed,

Here's some follow-up commentary from Dr. Sowell.

Brad
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April 15, 2008 A Living Lie *By* *Thomas
Sowell*<http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/author/thomas_sowell/>

An e-mail from a reader said that, while Hillary Clinton tells lies, Barack
Obama is himself a lie. That is becoming painfully apparent with each new
revelation of how drastically his carefully crafted image this election year
contrasts with what he has actually been saying and doing for many years.

Senator Obama's election year image is that of a man who can bring the
country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as
solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries
with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as
needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended
party differences in the United States Senate. Voting records analyzed by
the National Journal show him to be the farthest left of anyone in the
Senate. Nor has he sponsored any significant bipartisan legislation -- nor
any other significant legislation, for that matter.

Senator Obama is all talk -- glib talk, exciting talk, confident talk, but
still just talk.

Some of his recent talk in San Francisco has stirred up controversy because
it revealed yet another blatant contradiction between Barack Obama's public
image and his reality.

Speaking privately to supporters in heavily left-liberal San Francisco,
Obama let down his hair and described working class people in Pennsylvania
as so "bitter" that they "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people
who aren't like them."

Like so much that Obama has said and done over the years, this is standard
stuff on the far left, where guns and religion are regarded as signs of
psychological dysfunction -- and where opinions different from those of the
left are ascribed to emotions ("bitter" in this case), rather than to
arguments that need to be answered.

Like so many others on the left, Obama rejects "stereotypes" when they are
stereotypes he doesn't like but blithely throws around his own stereotypes
about "a typical white person" or "bitter" gun-toting, religious and racist
working class people.

In politics, the clearer a statement is, the more certain it is to be
followed by a "clarification," when people react adversely to what was
plainly said.

Obama and his supporters were still busy "clarifying" Jeremiah Wright's very
plain statements when it suddenly became necessary to "clarify" Senator
Obama's own statements in San Francisco.

People who have been cheering whistle-blowers for years have suddenly
denounced the person who blew the whistle on what Obama said in private that
is so contradictory to what he has been saying in public.

However inconsistent Obama's words, his behavior has been remarkably
consistent over the years. He has sought out and joined with the radical,
anti-Western left, whether Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers of the terrorist
Weatherman underground or pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli Rashid Khalidi.

Obama is also part of a long tradition on the left of being for the working
class in the abstract, or as people potentially useful for the purposes of
the left, but having disdain or contempt for them as human beings.

Karl Marx said, "The working class is revolutionary or it is nothing." In
other words, they mattered only in so far as they were willing to carry out
the Marxist agenda.

Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw included the working class among the
"detestable" people who "have no right to live." He added: "I should despair
if I did not know that they will all die presently, and that there is no
need on earth why they should be replaced by people like themselves."

Similar statements on the left go back as far as Rousseau in the 18th
century and come forward into our own times.

It is understandable that young people are so strongly attracted to Obama.
Youth is another name for inexperience -- and experience is what is most
needed when dealing with skillful and charismatic demagogues.

Those of us old enough to have seen the type again and again over the years
can no longer find them exciting. Instead, they are as tedious as they are
dangerous.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
> Barark Obama supporters look here.  He is saying what ...
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14kristol.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
>
> Now some call this writer conservative.  I say he lost that years ago and
> must be called Washington groupie.  He is not a real conservative... so
> what
> is his point?
>
> I got berated for using the term, 'fellow travelers'.  This writer is more
> direct with citation, would you believe?
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> Bob, just consider the guy with the peg leg is just a typical government
> program director.
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