[Rhodes22-list] Brad, a description of Bob and Stan's minimal health care... (Political)

[Brad Haslett]

John,

I have no problem believing it whatsoever.  One of Fan's friends from
college immigrated to Vancouver and started suffering from arthritis - six
month waiting list to see a specialist.  My ex-father-in-law died from colon
cancer under the German health care system - 90 day waiting period for
surgery.  Fan's mother was diagnosed as needing dialysis here in the States
from tests we paid for out of pocket.  Why are so many Canadian doctors
immigrating to the US?  You can play all the games with socialized medicine
you want, name one country that has better health care than the US?  Access
may be a problem but quality isn't.  Socializing it will ruin it!

Brad

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:27 PM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> i might believe it if the guy had used his real name.....as is it sounds
> like urban legend. it's a fact that once the cancer has metasticized to the
> bones, theres not much any doctor or medical procedure can do. second
> opinion early on, would have been a good idea. maybe in the states, since he
> was already here.
>
> Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> Brad, I accidentially found a description of Bob and Stan's minimal
> Federal
> Health Care. You know what they a call catch all, etc.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Socialism Killed My Parents
>
> I am originally from Canada. I became a US resident in 1985. My parents
> who
> lived in Montreal, died recently, both killed by the Canadian health care
> system. My father had a heart attack but the ambulance took 90 minutes to
> get him to a hospital. Why? The ambulance driver took him to the "wrong"
> emergency room twice, and, though they could have treated him, they sent
> my
> dad away both times. (he was in the wrong "region" or something, as best
> my
> mother could recall). He lived another ten days in an Intensive Care Unit
> at
> Montreal General, that in August was stiflingly hot; there were two air
> conditioners (circa 1975) wedged into open windows to cool an ICU with 10
> or
> so, gravely ill patients. It was humid and unbearable. Average temperature
> on my father's final days on earth inside the ICU; 90 - 95 degrees F.
>
> My mother noticed a lump in her breast and was told three times by her
> oncologist (one of only three in all of Montreal, a city of two million
> people) that it was "nothing". She could NOT get a second opinion and,
> sensing the worst, she kept going back to the same doctor in each of the
> six
> month interval between "available" appointments. Finally on her fourth
> visit
> (two years later) he realized there "could be a problem". Once diagnosed,
> my
> mother got chemo almost right away but had to wait six weeks for radiation
> as there was some "problem". That was the explanation. No questions
> allowed.
>
> I was summoned to Montreal only a few days before my father's death. But I
> spent a full (and wonderful) year with my mother in Montreal before she
> died. The last time I accompanied her to her oncologist (at the Royal
> Victoria Hospital), he presented us with an x-ray that was dotted with
> dark
> spots. " The cancer has spread into your bones and lungs" he said
> matter-of-factly. The news took our breath away, as we were hoping the
> chemo
> and radiation would buy her a few more years at least. Bravely composing
> herself, my mother asked "What are we going to do?" Here's what the 30
> something piss-ant doctor said to my mother. "Mrs. Rezyka, you are 79
> years
> old, you've had a full life. What do expect from us?
>
> I should have smashed his teeth down his throat right there and then, but
> I
> could not. Incurring his wrath could cost my mother additional suffering
> and
> I, by then, knew that all too well.
>
> My mother told me this when I first arrived home (one year before her
> death)
> "I have to be nice to these people; they think I've lived long enough as
> it
> is, and if they don't like me, they won't help me". She always brought
> gifts
> to the 20 something punk kid that booked her chemo sessions because she
> knew
> that he could easily derail her treatment. My mother was a strong and
> proud
> woman and it sickened me to see her kowtow to these junior bureaucrats and
> doctors whom, she feared, considered her too old to be worthy of
> attention.
>
> You still want a Canadian style health care system here?
>
> Canada has taken tort reform down to it's Socialist absurdity. You cannot
> sue the Canadian government at all, for any reason. Thus the treatment of
> my
> mother and father stands; immune from consequence or criticism. The system
> is rife with cronyism, ageism, arrogance, and corruption.
> As a sidelight here; both my parents quit smoking in 1980. But on their
> death certificates the "smoking related death" check-box is ticked. I have
> a
> feeling that in Canada all smokers, present or past, die of "smoking
> related" illness, even if run over by a bus. Also, my father's date of
> birth
> was wrong, making him seven years older than he actually was when he died.
> I'm certain Canada cooks its longevity statistics to hide its failures
> from
> the public and the world.
>
> The once elite Canadian health care system is now well below the standard
> of
> our free County system. The lowly American without health insurance now
> gets
> better health care than every Canadian.
>
> That's the truth.
>
> You still want a Canadian style health care system here?
>
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> Gender: Male
>
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