[Rhodes22-list] Stan's electrifying answer to Chet

Wed Apr 30 08:22:19 EDT 2008

Chet said, “lighten up on a newbie, eh?;-)”  

What is that old saying about give a man a fish, you feed him for a day,
teach him to fish and you feed him for life…

If we gave you the quick answer, how long would you remember it?  Several
list members have pointed out that they do not have the hoist system.  One
even has the IMF and defends not having one.  Others have given you good
reason to bite the bullet and have it.  As I said previously, how much is
your personal safety worth?  And as pointed out by some, it offers greater
utility for using a Rhodes 22.

You said that you searched the archives?  What computer operating system do
you use?  Does it allow for favorites?  Or keep a memory of web sites for
fast access?  Have you diligently saved the tools given you in the various
posts so as to find answers to issues quickly?  

Michael W.’s post gives more specific tools.  Do you read other seemingly
non related post on the list?  For example, you want detailed instructions. 
If you read a post,
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2008-April/050064.html, 
you just might begin to get the idea that all the details are just not
written yet.  Stan does not have a staff devoted to writing step by step
instructions.  However, some instructions have been written and posted over
the years by Rhodies.  Then those instructions have been embellished by
other Rhodies.  An illustration is that somewhere in the archives, Captain
Alm has written an excellent set of instructions for raising and lowering
the mast.  It was followed by detailed comments on different steps or
various equipment by others.  

Various equipment?  What?  Stan’s mast raising systems are a work in
progress.  Just like the Rhodes 22, the boat.  He has used many variations
of raising the mast.  The instructions for different systems just might be
different?  Did you notice his latest version?  Electric?  Does it rise out
of the foredeck like a periscope?  Does it have a robotic arm that grabs the
mast and sets it upright?  Did you see the pictures?

The new guy Mike C is going to try to write a history.  The question is can
he write fast enough to keep up with Stan?

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

we now have an electric model

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chet, you seem to be an O.K. guy, but...

> Chet, I think I remember the mast crane as a $750 option.  I didn't
> buy it and in hind sight I should have.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:06 PM, andrew collins <engineerpac at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Chet
>>
>> Take the good, ignore the bad. Ed is of his meds.
>>
>> The GB mast crane is great, it lets you work slowly and without stress. 
>> The
>> wiinch has a built-in brake, so you can stop anytime. Unless you have
>> reliable helpers, it is a necessity. Around here all the helpers either
>> drink beer or have family obligations or something. It is a little bit 
>> dear,
>> but having people stop and gape while you do it solo is priceless
>>
>> Andrew C
>>
>> s/v Carmen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/29/08, chetc <cclocksin at buckeye-express.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Ed,
>> >
>> > I appreciate all of the opinions and advice you and others have 
>> > offered,
>> > but
>> > I think I detect a bit of a condescending tone to your reply. :-/Yes I
>> > have
>> > seen pictures of various mast raising systems, but I have not seen
>> > anything
>> > from general Boats that is advertised as a mast crane, with a picture 
>> > and
>> > a
>> > price. Maybe there is a "secret" catalog for parts and accessories of 
>> > the
>> > Rhodes 22. It is possible that I could have somehow missed it in my 
>> > HOURS
>> > of
>> > searching this site, Google, ask.com and others, so please forgive
>> > me.:confused:
>> >
>> > If you recall, my original question was whether or not the system
>> > described
>> > in the literature THAT I FOUND IN THE ARCHIVES worked with the IMF...so
>> > YES,
>> > I did take the time to study the home page. Did you ever think that
>> > someone
>> > new to the list might not be able to find their way around as quickly 
>> > as
>> > someone who has been using it for years? Or, heaven forbid, an 
>> > experienced
>> > Rhodie might save a new guy some time and trouble without the high and
>> > mighty attitude?
>> >
>> > So, I guess I would say the same thing...you seem like an O.K. guy,
>> > but...lighten up on a newbie, eh?;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tootle wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Chet,
>> > >
>> > > You said about mast raising on rhodes 22, "One of these days I may
>> > invest
>> > > in this so-called "mast crane", but I haven't even seen a picture of 
>> > > it,
>> > > let alone a price."
>> > >
>> > > Price should never be an issue when personal safety is at stake. 
>> > > Want
>> > to
>> > > see some pictures?  There are many pictures posted in the archives.
>> > >
>> > > There are others just waiting for you by looking:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/Movies/Rhodes22c/srhodes22c.html
>> > >
>> > > and:  http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/tech.html (have you taken time 
>> > > to
>> > > study the home page of this web site?  and all that is contained on 
>> > > its
>> > > pages?)
>> > >
>> > > And a diligent search of the archives will find many pictures posted 
>> > > of
>> > > Rhodies raising or lowering their mast.  Such as:
>> > > http://www.nabble.com/file/4531/Dec%2006%20Red%20Rhodes%20005.jpg
>> > > http://www.nabble.com/file/4532/Dec%2006%20Red%20Rhodes%20009.jpg
>> > >
>> > > Ed K
>> > > Greenville, SC, USA
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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