[Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Fri Aug 1 01:30:04 EDT 2008


The "creaking seat" has been discussed at length and finally Stan chimed in
and said forget about it.  He described why the seat makes a noise and
dismissed any problems with it.  Mine creaks too but has anyone experienced
any collapse or any other problems?  I haven't heard of any.  Not one.
Don't fix what ain't broke.

Slim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:

>  Mike, Without looking, I think there is a bulkhead which supports the
> aft end of the cockpit floor just forward of the laz forward wall  (about
> 42" forward of the transom).  A post or plywood support directly above
> that bulkhead would be more than sufficient to handle the load.
>
> Todd T.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Michael D. Weisner"
>  To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
>   Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:00:43 -0400
>
>
>  Todd,
>
>  Yes, I had thought about the problem of where to secure the aft
>  support. My
>  first thought is to use a 2' x 2' (or whatever fits) piece of 3/4"
>  marine
>  ply bonded to the inside of the laz partition to spread out the load.
>  I
>  already have a piece of plywood on each side to provide structure to
>  secure
>  my laz storage system to. A second thought would be to place a
>  support
>  column at the rear of the cockpit to the floor, but there is little
>  or no
>  support structure (in my '81) under the rear cockpit floor/gutter
>  area. In
>  either design, something would need to be added for support so I
>  would
>  rather hide it in the laz where it can also serve multiple functions.
>
>  Mike
>  s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>  Nissequogue River, NY
>
>   From: "Todd Tavares" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:48
>   AM
>  > Mike,
>  >
>  > Your idea sounds good but may be more complicated than you think.
>  > Remember that the forward wall of the laz on most boats is just a
>  > partition and not a load bearing bulkhead. Just a thought.
>  >
>  >
>  > Todd T.
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: R22MikeW
>  > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>  > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
>  > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Todd,
>  >
>  > I have no doubt that Roger's solution works, although I think that
>  > there
>  > must be another way that is more visually appealing. Has anyone
>  > attempted
>  > to run a length of tubing under the raised portion of the cockpit
>  > seat (the
>  > edge near the middle of the cockpit) from front to back, supporting
>  > the
>  > tubing in the lazarrette and the companionway bulkhead? I have
>  always
>  > been
>  > concerned by the sound emitted by the seats but never thought to
>  add
>  > a
>  > support structure. The vertical columns that Roger added may
>  > interfere with
>  > access to the storage area under the seats while the front to back
>  > support
>  > would not.
>  >
>  > Just thinking out loud...
>  >
>  > Mike
>  > s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>  > Nissequogue River, NY
>  >
>  >
>  > Todd Tavares wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Mike,
>  > >
>  > > See
>  >
>  http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2003-April/007272.html
>  > >
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: "Todd Tavares"
>  > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>  > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
>  > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:49:59 -0500
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Mike, I have a picture somewhere on my computer showing how one
>  > owner
>  > > reinforced his seats (Roger P). When I get home, I will post the
>  > pic
>  > > and
>  > > if I can find the original post, I will include a link. Todd T.
>  > >
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: "Mike Cheung"
>  > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>  > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats -- was -- Re: Lake
>  > Erie;
>  > > was placing Genoa
>  > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Rick,
>  > >
>  > > Just what did you do to reinforce your seats?
>  > >
>  > > Mike C. s/v Muireann '93/'04/'08 R22
>  > >
>  > > (List .... sorry to resurrect such an old thread! Mike)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Rick Lange-2 wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Hi John,
>  > > > Don't believe everything you hear. I grew up in Pgh
>  > > > and compared to river sailing and the dinky lakes in Western
>  Pa.,
>  > > Lake
>  > > > Erie is 1000% more fun.
>  > > > Today, winds were out of the west at 15 kn
>  > > > midday after a calm night. The waves only built to 1 ft by the
>  > time
>  > > we
>  > > > sailed 10 kmi north into the lake from Cleveland at hull spped.
>  > > When I
>  > > > wanted to turn back, my companion almost mutinied because he
>  > didn't
>  > > want
>  > > > it to end. (He's used to sailing on a puddle called Lake
>  > > > Hartwell.)
>  > > > Of course, conditions are much more variable on Erie in
>  > > > terms of when and where you sail. Waves are often choppy, but
>  the
>  > > flaired
>  > > > hull of the R22 is great for keeping the cockpit dry. The
>  > downside
>  > > of the
>  > > > hull design is it makes it hard to tack when blowing over 25
>  kn.
>  > > > I
>  > > > can have a good time with waves up to 5 ft and winds to 30 kn.
>  > > However,
>  > > > my bench seats have been reinforced to minimize big wave
>  flexing
>  > > that
>  > > > cracks the gelcoat.
>  > > > As a beginner, pick a day when the wind is
>  > > > blowing steady 10 kn or more from the south. You'll have smooth
>  > > sailing
>  > > > and an opportunity to try every maneauver you can think of,
>  > > including
>  > > > man-overboard drills.
>  > > > Rick
>  > > >
>  > > >
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