[Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
Steven Alm
stevenalm at gmail.com
Fri Aug 1 01:30:04 EDT 2008
The "creaking seat" has been discussed at length and finally Stan chimed in
and said forget about it. He described why the seat makes a noise and
dismissed any problems with it. Mine creaks too but has anyone experienced
any collapse or any other problems? I haven't heard of any. Not one.
Don't fix what ain't broke.
Slim
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> Mike, Without looking, I think there is a bulkhead which supports the
> aft end of the cockpit floor just forward of the laz forward wall (about
> 42" forward of the transom). A post or plywood support directly above
> that bulkhead would be more than sufficient to handle the load.
>
> Todd T.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael D. Weisner"
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:00:43 -0400
>
>
> Todd,
>
> Yes, I had thought about the problem of where to secure the aft
> support. My
> first thought is to use a 2' x 2' (or whatever fits) piece of 3/4"
> marine
> ply bonded to the inside of the laz partition to spread out the load.
> I
> already have a piece of plywood on each side to provide structure to
> secure
> my laz storage system to. A second thought would be to place a
> support
> column at the rear of the cockpit to the floor, but there is little
> or no
> support structure (in my '81) under the rear cockpit floor/gutter
> area. In
> either design, something would need to be added for support so I
> would
> rather hide it in the laz where it can also serve multiple functions.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Todd Tavares" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:48
> AM
> > Mike,
> >
> > Your idea sounds good but may be more complicated than you think.
> > Remember that the forward wall of the laz on most boats is just a
> > partition and not a load bearing bulkhead. Just a thought.
> >
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: R22MikeW
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >
> > Todd,
> >
> > I have no doubt that Roger's solution works, although I think that
> > there
> > must be another way that is more visually appealing. Has anyone
> > attempted
> > to run a length of tubing under the raised portion of the cockpit
> > seat (the
> > edge near the middle of the cockpit) from front to back, supporting
> > the
> > tubing in the lazarrette and the companionway bulkhead? I have
> always
> > been
> > concerned by the sound emitted by the seats but never thought to
> add
> > a
> > support structure. The vertical columns that Roger added may
> > interfere with
> > access to the storage area under the seats while the front to back
> > support
> > would not.
> >
> > Just thinking out loud...
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> >
> > Todd Tavares wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > See
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2003-April/007272.html
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Todd Tavares"
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:49:59 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike, I have a picture somewhere on my computer showing how one
> > owner
> > > reinforced his seats (Roger P). When I get home, I will post the
> > pic
> > > and
> > > if I can find the original post, I will include a link. Todd T.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Cheung"
> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] re inforcing seats -- was -- Re: Lake
> > Erie;
> > > was placing Genoa
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick,
> > >
> > > Just what did you do to reinforce your seats?
> > >
> > > Mike C. s/v Muireann '93/'04/'08 R22
> > >
> > > (List .... sorry to resurrect such an old thread! Mike)
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Lange-2 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > > Don't believe everything you hear. I grew up in Pgh
> > > > and compared to river sailing and the dinky lakes in Western
> Pa.,
> > > Lake
> > > > Erie is 1000% more fun.
> > > > Today, winds were out of the west at 15 kn
> > > > midday after a calm night. The waves only built to 1 ft by the
> > time
> > > we
> > > > sailed 10 kmi north into the lake from Cleveland at hull spped.
> > > When I
> > > > wanted to turn back, my companion almost mutinied because he
> > didn't
> > > want
> > > > it to end. (He's used to sailing on a puddle called Lake
> > > > Hartwell.)
> > > > Of course, conditions are much more variable on Erie in
> > > > terms of when and where you sail. Waves are often choppy, but
> the
> > > flaired
> > > > hull of the R22 is great for keeping the cockpit dry. The
> > downside
> > > of the
> > > > hull design is it makes it hard to tack when blowing over 25
> kn.
> > > > I
> > > > can have a good time with waves up to 5 ft and winds to 30 kn.
> > > However,
> > > > my bench seats have been reinforced to minimize big wave
> flexing
> > > that
> > > > cracks the gelcoat.
> > > > As a beginner, pick a day when the wind is
> > > > blowing steady 10 kn or more from the south. You'll have smooth
> > > sailing
> > > > and an opportunity to try every maneauver you can think of,
> > > including
> > > > man-overboard drills.
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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