[Rhodes22-list] Slim....more details

Thu Aug 21 03:00:07 EDT 2008

BTW, I meant to add that across from our slip at the Shorewood Yacht Club is
another R22.  Blue hull named Zepherus owned by one, Mueller.  New owner.
I'll get 'im to join our party.

Slim

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> We launched Fandango today.  It took us several hours to get it all rigged
> up and right but she's wet and happy.  We decided to leave the bent stern
> rail on for now to help with the integrity of the mast crutch as well as the
> swim ladder.  We repaired not one but both forward lower chain plates.  Tim
> talked directly to General Boats and took Stan's advice on how to do it.
> And talk about your mast-raising system--They took a cherry picker with a
> crane on it and just tied a line around the mast just below the spreaders
> and hoisted it up as the mast went vertical and eased it down right in place
> at the tabernacle.  Then he just held it there until we connected all the
> stays.  Can I have one of those?  Then he launched it with a bobcat
> perfectly without using the tongue extension.  Can I have one of those too?
> Boat yards!  It's like having roadies for your band.  They do everything
> faster.
>
> I think I'm going to like my new CDI Flex Furler.  We didn't have time to
> take the boat out for a sail but we did take it through a few paces and it
> seems to work great.  I suppose now I'll go shopping for another jib since
> they're so easy to change on the CDI.
>
> They offered me a slip there at the yacht club for free for a couple weeks
> so I took them up on it and plan to explore that side of Lake Minnetonka
> which is beyond a low bridge for us on our side of the lake.
>
> Now if we could only get the time and good weather  to sail the tail end of
> the season.  Hope so!
>
> Slim
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like I'll be getting a new jib furler.  The tube was bent and could
>> be mostly straightened but the "barings" were shot and even with new
>> bearings, even a slight wobble in the tube would creat the same problem.
>> The stay was being unwound and wound over and over and the entire stay was
>> kinked inside the tube where I couldn't see it.  The stat broke just a few
>> inches from the lower end--very suspicious.  It was obviously ready to go
>> anyway.  I'm going with a new CDI flex furler.  Still waiting to hear if
>> insurance will cover it.
>>
>> Some pictures below.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Slim,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear that nobody was injured.  The potential for injury was
>>> great,
>>> all things considered.
>>>
>>> Does the boat insurance cover the damage?  I have to check our policy to
>>> see
>>> if we are covered.  Having struck a set of overhead wires at our home
>>> ramp
>>> that had been moved by a contractor, I always look up during launch and
>>> recovery.  Experience is the greatest teacher.
>>>
>>> Lately, we raise the mast after launching, while still at the finger
>>> pier.
>>> This permits us more launch possibilities since we can use every ramp
>>> location, not just the one the clears the mast.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>>>       Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:48
>>> PM
>>> > Elle,
>>> >
>>> > I agree but I'll let the insurance people sort that out.  All I said to
>>> > him
>>> > was, "You could have said something." He just said, "I thought you were
>>> > gonna stop."  After I was all packed up I told him that in light of the
>>> > situation I thought he should waive the slip fee, which he did.
>>> >
>>> > Slim
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:31 PM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The marina owner absolutely has the responsibility to post a notice at
>>> >> the
>>> >> ramp warning of the power line. Samart would be to post notice
>>> >> w/clearance.
>>> >>
>>> >> He ears some responsibility in this..esp if he ws right there...
>>> >>
>>> >> elle
>>> >>
>>> >> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Slim....more details
>>> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >> > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 6:52 PM
>>> >> > Elle,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yeah, something like that.  Obviously when we were
>>> >> > discussing the height,
>>> >> > both of us were thinking about the boat on the water.
>>> >> > There were no
>>> >> > problems getting into the slip and I didn't think to
>>> >> > ask him about the
>>> >> > parking lot.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Slim
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:46 PM, elle
>>> >> > <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Slim,
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > It could have been much, much worse. So glad no one
>>> >> > was hurt.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Keep us informed as to the progress of this event..
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > BTW...with the boat on the trailer, isn't the mast
>>> >> > another 5 or so feet
>>> >> > >  higher?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > elle
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>> >> > can adjust our sails.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
>>> >> >   (Lady in Red)
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Steven Alm
>>> >> > <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > > From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Slim....more details
>>> >> > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>> >> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >> > > > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 6:33 PM
>>> >> > > > Folks, here's the story:  This happened at
>>> >> > the end of
>>> >> > > > our 5-day trip down
>>> >> > > > the Mississippi River.  We had a very nice voyage
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > > > I'll post some pix
>>> >> > > > later but I know you all want me to get to the
>>> >> > gory details
>>> >> > > > first.  We were
>>> >> > > > at the Winona Yacht Club on our last night.  All
>>> >> > was good.
>>> >> > > > The next morning
>>> >> > > > we planned to pull the boat out and head for
>>> >> > home.  We
>>> >> > > > decided to pull the
>>> >> > > > boat out with the mast up and pack it down out in
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > > > parking lot.  When I
>>> >> > > > got a few yards from the top of the ramp I
>>> >> > snagged an
>>> >> > > > overhead wire and tore
>>> >> > > > the mast off.  The wire was very high and must
>>> >> > have caught
>>> >> > > > the top foot or
>>> >> > > > so of the mast.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > First, it could have been much, much worse.
>>> >> > Overhead lines
>>> >> > > > and masts can
>>> >> > > > and have lead to serious injury or death.  This
>>> >> > time nobody
>>> >> > > > got hurt!  The
>>> >> > > > wire didn't electrocute me nor did it break
>>> >> > and sizzle
>>> >> > > > and zap somebody.
>>> >> > > > I'm thankful for that and feel I got a little
>>> >> > lucky all
>>> >> > > > things considered.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Now friends, this accident was my fault.  I'm
>>> >> > the one
>>> >> > > > who drove into the
>>> >> > > > wire and as we all know, it's always the
>>> >> > captain's
>>> >> > > > fault and there are no
>>> >> > > > excuses but...  When I booked the slip, the first
>>> >> > thing I
>>> >> > > > said was it's a
>>> >> > > > sailboat and we're about 30 feet tall and I
>>> >> > asked if
>>> >> > > > there were any overhead
>>> >> > > > wires or bridges or any other height restrictions
>>> >> > and the
>>> >> > > > owner of the
>>> >> > > > marina said absolutely not and he, himself has a
>>> >> > sailboat
>>> >> > > > and there would be
>>> >> > > > no problem.  Hearing that, the whole issue was
>>> >> > completely
>>> >> > > > off my mind.
>>> >> > > > Further, he, Dennis the owner was standing right
>>> >> > there
>>> >> > > > watching me load the
>>> >> > > > boat on to the trailer offering his help and
>>> >> > watched me
>>> >> > > > pull up the ramp.
>>> >> > > > Don't you think he could have said something?
>>> >> >  It's
>>> >> > > > his frickin' marina and
>>> >> > > > he knows the wire's there.  He stood there
>>> >> > silent and
>>> >> > > > watched the whole
>>> >> > > > thing go down.  I'm not blaming him for the
>>> >> > accident
>>> >> > > > but I gotta say that I
>>> >> > > > think he's some kind of dummy for letting
>>> >> > this happen
>>> >> > > > in his yard.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Damage report:  The mast tabernacle broke away
>>> >> > from the
>>> >> > > > cabin roof.  This is
>>> >> > > > what it's supposed to do.  Just three hefty
>>> >> > wood screws
>>> >> > > > hold it on and if it
>>> >> > > > were through-bolted it would have torn off a nice
>>> >> > big chunk
>>> >> > > > of the
>>> >> > > > roof--which it did not.  The bow stay broke about
>>> >> > a foot up
>>> >> > > > from the chain
>>> >> > > > plate.  The forward lower shroud chain plate on
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > > > starboard side pulled
>>> >> > > > completely out.  The stern rail has a big bend in
>>> >> > it where
>>> >> > > > the mast hit it.
>>> >> > > > The jib furling tube has a little bend toward the
>>> >> > top and a
>>> >> > > > small tear in
>>> >> > > > the sail.  Wires to the radio antenna and the
>>> >> > steaming
>>> >> > > > light tore apart.
>>> >> > > > But there was no significant structural damage to
>>> >> > the boat
>>> >> > > > itself.  The mast
>>> >> > > > does not seem to be bent after hitting the stern
>>> >> > rail and
>>> >> > > > then falling to
>>> >> > > > the ground.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > With the help of some friendly and sympathetic
>>> >> > bystanders I
>>> >> > > > stripped
>>> >> > > > everything down and loaded it all back up on the
>>> >> > boat while
>>> >> > > > my poor wife
>>> >> > > > stood in the parking lot horrified and sobbing.
>>> >> > I drove
>>> >> > > > directly to a boat
>>> >> > > > yard back home and dropped it off there.  I'm
>>> >> > fairly
>>> >> > > > handy at fixing stuff
>>> >> > > > but I'm going to let the pros handle this.  I
>>> >> > finally
>>> >> > > > got a call from Tim,
>>> >> > > > the boat fixer and things don't seem to be
>>> >> > all that bad
>>> >> > > > and I feel a little
>>> >> > > > less shitty.  The worst part is the stern rail.
>>> >> > It's
>>> >> > > > not yet known if it
>>> >> > > > can be straightened or a new section of it
>>> >> > replaced or if I
>>> >> > > > have to get a
>>> >> > > > whole new one.  But the good news is that part
>>> >> > can wait
>>> >> > > > until sailing season
>>> >> > > > is over.  The rest can be fixed in what he
>>> >> > thought would be
>>> >> > > > about a week.
>>> >> > > > If I wanted, I could even just take the stern
>>> >> > rail off and
>>> >> > > > sail without it.
>>> >> > > > Like Tim said, there are dozens of J22 stern
>>> >> > rails laying
>>> >> > > > around that were
>>> >> > > > taken off and never put back on.  Or we could
>>> >> > just sail
>>> >> > > > with it bent until
>>> >> > > > we decide what to do.  I have insurance with
>>> >> > State Farm but
>>> >> > > > I don't have an
>>> >> > > > estimate from Tim yet so I haven't contacted
>>> >> > them yet
>>> >> > > > to make a claim.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > I did not take any pictures of the damage.  I
>>> >> > should have
>>> >> > > > but I was too
>>> >> > > > shaken by the whole thing that I didn't think
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > > > that.  I had to just
>>> >> > > > drop off the boat and head out of town for my gig
>>> >> > this week
>>> >> > > > in the Lake of
>>> >> > > > the Ozarks.  I won't be home until next
>>> >> > Thursday and by
>>> >> > > > then it might be
>>> >> > > > fixed.  Except the stern rail.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Slim
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Hank
>>> >> > > > <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > > Nope, he hasn't told us yet.
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > Slim, we're all in great suspense!
>>> >> > Hopefully no
>>> >> > > > one was hurt in the
>>> >> > > > > dismasting.
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > Hank
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > On 7/23/08, elle
>>> >> > <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > but now my boat's in for
>>> >> > repairs for a
>>> >> > > > few weeks.
>>> >> > > > > > > I'll let you know when
>>> >> > we're back in
>>> >> > > > the saddle.
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > Slim
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > Did I miss the details???
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > elle
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > >
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